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				<title>too much to ask?: Re: too much to ask?</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 04:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Alene Y</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>344540</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Oh, you're both right. It wouldn't have any effect on them. It would have to be something that hit them in the wallet.</p> 
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				<title>too much to ask?: Re: too much to ask?</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 03:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Well, in theory, you need a heart in order to survive, but if they do have a heart, I would imagine it to be a very dried up heart filled with sand.</p> 
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				<title>too much to ask?: Re: too much to ask?</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 03:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Mike Poulin</wikidot:authorName>								<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Does a Doomsayer have a heart or would the knife go right through his/her chest.</p> 
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				<title>Any new podcast coming?: Any new podcast coming?</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 03:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Jason</wikidot:authorName>								<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Looking forward to another "Just another day."</p> <p>Are there any coming soon Astro and what will they cover?</p> <p>Many thanks in advance!!</p> <p>:-D</p> 
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				<title>too much to ask?: Re: too much to ask?</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 23:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Gaming is a good cover, factor in just how many games have knives where you can stab your opponents, no one really knows how many of us actually still play video games.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 22:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Alene Y</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>344540</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Yeah, but I did say it would be illegal. As long as none of them actually get stabbed, I should be OK. If they did, I might be in a bit of a pickle. It's a joke my sister and I use whenever someone does something particularly obnoxious. I'm not sure where it originated, probably in some movie.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 21:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Didn't someone just say…</p> <blockquote> <p>it <strong>is</strong> the internet, like a court, anything you say or, do can and will be used against you</p> </blockquote> <p>Just… throwing that out. We're the friendly, chummy bunch after all.</p> 
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				<title>People made &quot;The end of life in 2012&quot; themselves.: Re: People made &quot;The end of life in 2012&quot; themselves.</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 20:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>People like Gorelik exist only to draw attention to themselves and provoke others. The thing they would hate most is to be ignored. So…</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 19:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Alene Y</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>344540</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Yeah, me too, but I think it would be illegal to stab them seven times in the heart.</p> 
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				<title>People made &quot;The end of life in 2012&quot; themselves.: Re: People made &quot;The end of life in 2012&quot; themselves.</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 19:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>We usually try to not be like the doomsayers, who block anyone disagreeing with them. However, if we ignore him, he will probably go away as Raymond Mardyks finally did. I think he got tired of getting no responses to his nonsensical rants.</p> 
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				<title>People made &quot;The end of life in 2012&quot; themselves.: Re: People made &quot;The end of life in 2012&quot; themselves.</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 18:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Mike Poulin</wikidot:authorName>								<content:encoded>
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						 <p>I don't know if it's possible to do this but i suggest the administrator lock this topic before Ivan or anyone else can respond to it that way the argument ends/</p> 
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				<title>People made &quot;The end of life in 2012&quot; themselves.: Re: People made &quot;The end of life in 2012&quot; themselves.</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 17:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Whatever, we've proved our point. The only reason he's still posting is exactly for those reasons. That, and he believes we can't counter his theories.</p> 
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				<title>People made &quot;The end of life in 2012&quot; themselves.: Re: People made &quot;The end of life in 2012&quot; themselves.</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 16:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>I'd rather have his time wasted on a 2012 forum where nobody agrees with him, than for him to be out talking to people who do not know about the LHC for example.</p> <p>But yes, he wants attention, we're fattening him up on it, no arguments from me there.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 14:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Can't we all just agree to disagree with this lunatic? As long as he gets responses he'll continue to go on about his crackpot claims, and no one on the entire face of the earth will ever, ever be able to prove him wrong, because none of his claims make any sense whatsoever if you are a sane person.</p> <p>Apparently, Ivan Gorelik doesn't fall in under the latter category so why not simply stop feeding this lunacy any further?</p> <p>Everyone with even the most basic knowledge of physics knows that he is wrong, and why he is wrong. But Ivan is obviously smarter than every single scientist in the whole wide world and is light years beyond the Standard model of physics.</p> <p>I mean, come on, should we really allow ourselfs to step down to his level of sanity? I think not. We, and all the readers of this page and its forums are better than him. Just ignore him, there is absolutelly no point in having any kind of discussion with him.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 14:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Dear Ivan Gorelik,</p> <p>You continue to make the error of confusing repetition of your claims with defending them.</p> <blockquote> <blockquote> <p>That is way, I named nucleus by “nuclear quasi-holes”.</p> </blockquote> </blockquote> <p>Yes, your entire "argument" (and I use that term loosely) is based around you making up ideas and words that have no demonstrable connection to anything in reality.</p> 
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				<title>People made &quot;The end of life in 2012&quot; themselves.: Re: People made &quot;The end of life in 2012&quot; themselves.</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 13:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p><strong>Dear Moo</strong>, you are quite young, you have no physical education. Consequently, your conclusions about my ideas have no any cost. Your girl-friend, which is a 3-rd year physics student is also very young in order to believe her words. I’m 52 and I do not want to answer at your crude words. Do not afraid neutrinos. I did not say that neutrinos are dangerous.</p> <p><strong>Dear DeathDealer</strong>, try my program <a href="http://darkenergy.narod.ru/Explosion.exe">http://darkenergy.narod.ru/Explosion.exe</a> and look how many days does the Explosion last. Investigate, please, this interval dependence from the quantity of created microscopic droplets; from the velocity of particles in the hot plasma babbles around the droplets; from the density of dark matter inside droplets. If you will make it, you will understand, that it is quite early to say that contemporary collisions at LHC are safe. If you do not trust my program, make the analogues program yourself, please.</p> <p><strong>Dear UndeadxNurse</strong>, do not lie, please. In my page “Crude Errors in Risk Assessment of Colliders”, <a href="http://darkenergy.narod.ru/tezeng.html">http://darkenergy.narod.ru/tezeng.html</a> you can find the text which contradicts to your assertion. I’ll copy part of it here:</p> <p>Dear physicists, you again and again repeat the biggest error of Stephen Hawking.<br /> In the CERN's article “The safety of the LHC”<br /> <a href="http://public.web.cern.ch/public/en/LHC/Safety-en.html">http://public.web.cern.ch/public/en/LHC/Safety-en.html</a> you can find a dozen of comparisons with cosmic rays.</p> <p>Hawking: "The world will not come to an end when the LHC turns on. The LHC is absolutely safe. … Collisions releasing greater energy occur millions of times a day in the earth's atmosphere and nothing terrible happens."</p> <p>This error will cost us the life of our Civilization.</p> <p>The biggest error is in the comparison of A and B.<br /> A. Collisions of protons at LHC;<br /> B. Collisions of cosmic protons with atmospheric protons.</p> <p>Similarity: Energies in A and B are sufficient in order to make microscopic magnetic holes.</p> <p>Difference: Velocities of created holes relatively surrounding matter are drastically great.<br /> A. Magnetic holes, made on LHC, can have very small velocities.<br /> B. According to conservation law of 4-momentum, cosmic holes have relativistic velocities.</p> <p>Result:<br /> A. LHC’s holes capture slowly moving particles and grow. The bigger hole becomes – the bigger its rate of growth.<br /> B. Atmosphere particles move relatively holes with relativistic velocities and, correspondingly, they have TeV kinetic energy, relatively holes. As a result, magnetic holes evaporate immediately. Such collisions lead to creation of showers of secondary particles. Physicists observe such showers.</p> <p>Analogy:<br /> Let’s compare the behavior of “nuclear quasi-hole” with the behavior of magnetic hole. Let’s investigate two cases:</p> <p>A. Bombarding particles are neutrons, having the kinetic energies, equal to several in eV.<br /> B. Bombarding neutrons have kinetic energies, equal to several TeV.</p> <p>Approximate result:<br /> A. Collapse:<br /> p+n -&gt; d;<br /> d+n -&gt; t -&gt; He3+e;<br /> He3+n -&gt; He4;<br /> He4+n -&gt; He5;<br /> He5+n -&gt; He6 -&gt; Li6+e;<br /> Li6+n -&gt; Li7;<br /> Li7+n -&gt; Li8 -&gt; Be8+e;<br /> Be8+n -&gt; Be9;<br /> Be9+n -&gt; Be10;<br /> …<br /> U235+n -&gt; X+Y+2n<br /> X+n -&gt;…; Y+n -&gt;…<br /> two branches;<br /> …<br /> four branches;<br /> …<br /> eight branches;<br /> …</p> <p>B. Evaporation. TeV-energy neutrons will ruin the nucleus in the backward order in crude approximation.</p> <p>Nuclear collapse is impossible because the repulsive electrostatic forces of protons. That is way, I named nucleus by “nuclear quasi-holes”.<br /> Magnetic collapse has no limit. Magnetic hole will grow till there is the food, - the matter of planet or star.</p> <p>Physicists, did you see the difference?</p> <p>Look here: [[<a href="http://darkenergy.narod.ru/sn1987.jpg">http://darkenergy.narod.ru/sn1987.jpg</a>]]</p> <p>That is an image of remnants of exploded star.<br /> You can see there three beautiful semi axial rings.<br /> Axial symmetry says us that there was the magnetic collapse, but not the gravity collapse.<br /> Magnetic hole has axial symmetry because it is a compact magnetic dipole.<br /> Black hole must have spherical symmetry, if it is not rotate.</p> <p>The Earth after the magnetic collapse will transform into a small region of exited superconducting vacuum. This region’s diameter is about 10 meters. The thickness is about 2.5 meters. The strength of magnetic field in this region is about 10^16 teslas. Because of the strong magnetic interaction, this small magnetic hole will move on spiral trajectory to the Sun. As a result, the Sun will explode and astronomy amateurs from neighbor stellar systems will observe novae or supernovae phenomenon. Alien stephen hawkings will say: “The world will not come to an end when the LHC turns on. The LHC is absolutely safe. … Collisions releasing greater energy occur millions of times a day in the earth's atmosphere and nothing terrible happens”</p> 
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				<title>People made &quot;The end of life in 2012&quot; themselves.: Re: People made &quot;The end of life in 2012&quot; themselves.</title>
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						 <p>He also fails to factor in that particle collisions of this scale and higher occur frequently in their natural environment and guess what, we're still alive!</p> 
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						 <blockquote> <p>I'd want to do a lot more to the doomsayers then just grab them and shake them but that's just me.</p> </blockquote> <p>Oh, I agree, but if I were to do to them, what I'm really thinking about doing to them, I would be sent to another planet and labeled as a danger to the Human race.</p> 
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						 <p>I'd want to do a lot more to the doomsayers then just grab them and shake them but that's just me.</p> 
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						 <p>You are very inaccurate in your claims, Gorelik, if your claims were accurate, we would already be seeing the effects of the droplets if they were created in 2009, we would then see a devastating effect by Fall of this year and thus far we have not seen any effects that you have described as a result to the droplets. The time frame that you have given is very, very inaccurate and your knowledge of the matter is of poor standings, in fact, if we are to precisely follow the theory that you have given to the public, we should have been seeing the effects of the droplets some time in July of this year, if the droplets were created this year, we should see the effects by late July, or mid-August of 2011. Another flaw that you currently have that worries me is that you have not submitted this theory to peer-review, if it is "correct", which it is not.</p> 
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