Using criteria developed in this research, new measurements possible in 2013 (if not 2011) will likely confirm that in 2036 Apophis will quietly pass more than 49 million km (30.5 million miles; 0.32 AU) from Earth on Easter Sunday of that year (April 13).

These figures are based on the currently known orbital data and the nominal orbit and expected path for 2029. The trajectory which will take it through the keyhole in 2029 is some way off to one side, in the 'improbable' zone (250,000 to 1 improbable to be exact). So we don't even have to wait until 2029. We'll probably find out next year when the orbital errors are reduced and the keyhole moves from the improbable zone to the impossible zone.

What's up with this whole Purim thing?

It's a combination of cherry-picking of biblical passages and numerology.
We all remember how the same sort of thing worked out for Harold Camping.
Just more nonsense, not worthy of any serious attention.

You say that people make money from things like this…so all the scary websites about 2012, do they try and sell stuff on there? (i dont look at them coz they scare me too much) i just always wonder WHY people would say stuff about 2012. i hope your right, i hope its just people being cruel and selfish trying to make money.

Like Gary said, some do and some just want attention. But as sadly as it may sound there also exist the people who truly believe in this nonsense like there were alot of people whom truly believed in Harold Camping.

You can't predict the future just because some old books tells you something is going to happen. Why do i know this? Because you just cant. It's like saying "Tomorrow a giant dragon-unicorn-fairy is going to meet me at my way to school!" chances are the same and it's also as much of a predicting as "the world is going to end!"

I don't see what the deal there is. So people are afraid of a holiday that happens every year? That is like being afraid of Christmas. Or Valentine's Day. I don't get it.

http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/apophis/

Although I have to say, the last Ford truck I owned went through three engines before I finally dumped it for a GMC, but the frame and body were tough as they come.

WorldNetDaily earned the nickname WingnutDaily for a reason.

www.wnd.com/2012/02/iran-warns-world-of-coming-great-event/

http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/chevy-apocalyptic-super-bowl-ad-silverado-disses-ford-145134091.html

Now I hope they will let you seek the medical and professional help you need. It'll help you volumes. It sure did for me when I was having anxiety problems (not over 2012, mind). No shame in seeking it either. But you've taken the valuable first step. Good for you. :)

Rather, the site is about how some people are pushing the idea of a doomsday on December 21st 2012 based on an ancient meso-american calendar. They have created an extraordinary mythology surrounding that date complete with non-existent astronomical events, the fraudulent co-opting of the beliefs of various people (in particular those of various native-american groups) and the projection of their own beliefs onto various cultures. It's about informing people that these claims are false (for example, that the Maya never predicted a doomsday for that date), that there is no such thing as "Nibiru" (unless you are an ancient Sumerian speaking about the planet Jupiter), and that the motivations of people who try to scare you into buying something should be carefully examined.

Congratulations on completely missing the point.

Oh, and if you are wondering what motivates *us*, read this: http://www.2012hoax.org/rose

The site says in its introduction that "the letter sequences in the Hebrew text of Genesis are part of an effective science of consciousness".

I'm wondering if I should even bother replying.

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Do you have a site that exposes corporate hoaxes? In their advertisements corporations scam people far more then any new age group. Their scam is what actually takes money from people… You should expose them first. As for 2012 being a hoax, you can't entirely claim that to be valid, I'm not saying anything will happen… but it is a date in the future, and unless you are a psychic or a prophet [ ahhh irony :) ] you really don't know a damn thing.

If you go to a public school, most of them have counselors, and most of them are psychologists. They may not be able to treat you as a patient, but they might give you some ideas on where to get some help, or just simply "be there" to talk to.

I don't get what the point of this thread is? Spam?

Yes.

Which means, the conspiracy theorists are out there in droves. They honestly think a rogue black hole can sneak up on our solar system with no warning from other stars acting odd. That one can bypass getting close to any other star in the galaxy and just show up and kill our solar system. These are the same people who freaked out and thought the world was ending when they fired up the Large Haldron Collider.

We are billions of years away from the black hole in the center of the galaxy. It is not a threat. The sun will swell into a red giant billions of years before we even come close to the center of the universe. So far off, that it's not even worth worrying about. Rogue black holes are hypothetical. In other words, a "what if" scenario. If they do exist, they are still thousands of light years away from us. Which means one isn't going to pop up in the middle of the solar system and kill us all. It is impossible.

But I would also like to hear the specifics of what was said on this radio program, who was saying it, what is supposed to happen next year, etc.

Let's face it. We love to scare ourselves. Otherwise, horror and a good bit of science fiction would never exist as a genre. Those who promote the end of the world are tapping into that market, but they are doing it in a way that exploits those who suffer from anxiety. Which, in my opinion is incredibly wrong. While I can go to the sites of these people and honestly wonder if they were dropped on their heads as babies, or even recognize classic signs of schizophrenia without having to visit the DSM-IV for verification, (I've had more than one diagnosed roommate,) not everyone can do that. It has to do with life experience. And you will gain life experience and your bull detectors will develop with time. The fact that you are here addressing your anxieties is a very positive sign, in my opinion.

The true believers in the end of the world refuse to listen to reason. They stick their fingers in their ears and scream, "la la la, I can't hear you! I refuse to listen to reason!"

On a closed forum on a site where I work, there is one woman I truly worry about. She was sure Elenin was real, she even insisted that people in the know verified it for her. In folklore, her people in the know are called FOAF tales. Friend of a friend. Common in folklore and urban legends. Kind of like how you will hear from so many people about how a friend of a friend of a friend encountered that escaped mental patient in the back seat that the gas station attendant saved them from, but you will never, ever meet the person it happened to. Why? Because to this date, there are zero documented cased of that ever happening. It's one of those stories you believe the first two times you hear it, but by the third time, you start to wonder where all these escaped lunatics are coming from and why aren't you seeing anything on the news?

But getting back on subject, this woman promotes every single end of the world scenario out there and always has an unverifiable FOAF tale to go with her story. She believes every single one of them. When they don't happen, she is on to the next one. This is someone who has admitted she is afraid not of the world ending, but of the world not ending. Which is mentality that seriously worries me. No one in her life is getting her the help she needs and that should be a crime. She would also never be caught dead on a site like this, because it would invalidate her personal beliefs that we are all worthy of death. I would hate to see you end up like her.

Face the fears head on and don't feel stupid. If this is stemming from generalized anxiety, talk to your family about seeing a therapist, or letting the family doctor prescribe a mild anti-anxiety drug. Therapy doesn't mean you're insane, it means you need someone to talk to, who is trained in helping you get past the fears, the anxiety, the issues, in a non-judgmental way. You know, the opposite of what it's like when we try to confide in our families.

You're not the only person out there who knows logically that it's all garbage, but can't get past it emotionally. Especially among young people. Just refer back to the last huge scare on a global scale. When Halley's Comet passed through in 1910. Earth passed through the tail of the comet. People made a mint selling comet insurance and snake oil to stave off the ill effects of the gasses in the comet's tail. We were all going to die, based on bad science. All that happened was one of the best meteor showers ever.

Now, if you still want to scare yourself, I can give you a list of horror movies that will do it for you and I don't mean anything by that annoying hack Roland Emmerich.

"these people that have built this site about me"

He thinks the 2012hoax site was built about HIM???

I believe it. He really does think he is that important.

so it's quite amusing to think that he imagines a "staff" of 14 people are required (probably paid by the CIA).

Not the CIA. FEMA! Last I had any interaction with him, he was a FEMA death camp true believer.

Obaeyens, although your last one covers most of the ground, I'll add a few:

• Mass spiritual enlightenment 2012 - FAIL.
• Above-average increase in scepticism late 2012 / early 2013 - YES (call me a dreamer)
• Extra-dimensional, Higher Plane or Virtual doom, ever - FAIL (sorry for the unfalsifiable prediction).
• Extra-dimensional, Higher Plane or Virtual doom - YES, all the time (who cares? you can't prove me wrong).
• Some kind of selfish elite take over the world 2012 - FAIL (didn't you get the memo?)

Hi I was listening to a radio station today with my dad and they were talking about something that was going to happend in 2013

Something? You'll have to be a little more specific I'm afraid.

and then they said if we dont sink in to the black hole thats going to happend in 2012.

Total nonsense. http://www.2012hoax.org/black-hole

Why do ;people keep talking about it, and why would someone start this rumor? Im soooo confused????

People started this rumour primarily for money, but there are people who just want attention and notoriety. There is probably a small minority of true believers, but just because they believe it, it doesn't make it so. They're all wrong and nothing they say has any basis in reality.

So alot of things in school we learn about , mostly in science sparks bs talk sometimes…

-InsanityBringer listens to Still Alive all day on Dec. 21st, 2012 until he drives everyone nuts: Still coming. (I did this on Oct 31st, 2011, as well as a similar thing on the original day predicted by camping)
-InsanityBringer listens to Still Alive nonstop until Jan 1st, 2013, or until someone eats his speakers: Still coming.
-Millions of people will wake up perfectly fine on Jan 1st, 2013: Still coming.
-Rock with magical abilities comes near the earth before 2013: Fail.
-History Channel eliminates every program they've broadcast that has mentioned 2012 in some form from their network entirely: Still coming
-A million sad excuses for why the world didn't end: Still coming.
-A million more doomsday predictions: Still coming :(

Just please, like i tell everyone, December 21st 2012, dont panic about the end of the world. Decorate your house for christmas, drink egg nog, eat christmas cookies, enjoy the yuletide celebration, hell even kiss someone under the Mistletoe. Just Enjoy yourself and the life you live, you only get one, why Panic?
Have a good life and dont buy into mass hysteria :)
-SoT

*I dont care if your Atheist or any other Religion, Dont Bag on my beliefs, i wont bag on yours*

Why not ?

Because it is quite obviously satire. If nothing else, consider that the author "quotes" imaginary characters.

Even if it isn't satire (which it is), it's factually wrong on several counts that have been discussed repeatedly on this website and forum. For that matter, every claim raised in that article is listed in the menu to your left.

Will this was in the Google news an hour ago and it really got me worried.

It isn't intended to be taken seriously.

• Physical Pole shift before 2013: I predict FAIL
• Magnetic pole shift before 2013: I predict FAIL
• Rapture before 2013: I predict FAIL
• Second coming before 2013: I predict FAIL
• Earth destroyed by a CME before 2013: I predict FAIL
• Massive 9+ Earth the quake in March 2012: I predict FAIL
• Brown dwarf near Earth before 2013: I predict FAIL
• Any predicted domesday before 2013: I predict FAIL

Your turn.

All the hype is total bull…I know this…but when your brain is stuck in a loop, it's hard to get out of. Glad you're feeling better these days.

This site has been a great source of information to me. Especially when someone starts blathering about the Mayan calendar. Keep up the great work!