there is 'being prepared' and there is 'being prepared for the impossible'

Or, as the Tv Tropes page would probably put it, there is 'being prepared' and there is 'CrazyPrepared' ;-)

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And besides. What those scam artist fools dont know about is the international dateline. New Zealand and Australia are like a full day ahead of the United States. So that would mean it being December 21st in the states it would be December 22nd in New Zealand. The world will not end on December 21st 2012. If anyone has seen the movie the great escape they will remember 3 words after December 21st 2012. I'm still here.

yeah, post this text for more evidence

Axl, if you've looked, you should know that all of the things contained in Dr. Van Stone's message to you are already included on our pages about the Maya, as well as reflected in multiple responses you have received on this forum.

http://www.2012hoax.org/mayan-calendar
http://www.2012hoax.org/mayan-prediction

And the issue remains, even if the Maya had predicted some significant 2012 occurrence (which they did not), why should it matter to you? Hopefully you can move on from this nonsense now.

I presume you found my downloadable slide shows at the "research" section of www.famsi.org? In these shows I go into details about various aspects of Maya and Aztec Prophecy.
If I may also presume to promote my book, the essays in these slide shows were summarized and enhanced in my book "2012 - Science and Prophecy of the Ancient Maya"…
In any case, yes, I have done extensive research into the actual prophecies made by the ancient Maya. And several of them imply, or tell us clearly, that they expected "nothing" to happen. Of course, SOMETHING will happen on that date, things happen EVERY day, but nothing like the end of the world, a spiritual change, or even the end of their calendar. What they also tell us is that each city had its own ideas about the calendar, and like Catholics and Protestants and Muslims, they often believed things in one place that priests in other places disbelieved. But NONE, so far as we know, expected any sort of catastrophe, or New Age Beginning.
If you want the world to change, you are going to have to change it yourself. It's up to us.

We have never suggested that overpopulation isn't going to become a problem.

Sinkholes and cracks in the ground mean nothing.

There are about 1,500 volcanoes that have been active in the past 10,000 years. At present there are about 600 active volcanoes, with at least 20 erupting at any given time. I calculate that to be 3.3% of the active volcanoes erupting. When you include those considered dormant (not extinct), it would be 1.3% of them erupting.

We have never told anyone to not even think about preparing for the future, and we do suggest that they be prepared for the type of disasters that can and do happen where they live.

We don't suggest that people prepare for bogus doomsdays and imaginary planets.

I don't know about the others here, but I wouldn't even consider watching Fox Noise or reading The Sun.

Nothing you listed above really has anything to do with the focus of this site, which is the 2012 hoax.

*anyone who's done basic biology/physics knows that what goes up, always comes down*

Not strictly true, but I get the symbolism you're using - though I'm not sure what you think of the timescales involved in the 'coming down' part of the phrase. If not 2012, I get the impression 'near future' from you. Not sure, maybe you want to clarify.

Between the massive sink holes, the massive cracks just appearing across Peru and Mexico, the continuous flooding, and now almost every volcano is rumbling and showing signs of activity….

Welcome to Earth, that's been going on for quite some time now… Sinkholes, cracks, flooding and rumbly volcanoes are weekly occurrences at least, to some extent, and are but a few of the many ways the Earth displays it's geological activity.

To tell people to not even think about being prepared for future events is ridiculous.

Which is why we don't. We tell people there is no need to prepare for events that are physically impossible, or for events that were never predicted by the sources claimed to predict them, or based on objects for which there is no evidence of their existence in the first place and more.

Do you have a plan for the return of the dinosaurs? Do you wear a Unicorn-proof stab vest at all times? Of course you don't, dinosaurs and unicorns are no threat to you, there is no need to ever prepare for them. 2012 and the associated gubbins is no different.

Stocking up on bottled water and dry food sounds like a bad idea? Well I was raised with the mindset "always be prepared".

And to stress the point, there is 'being prepared' and there is 'being prepared for the impossible'. Plans for earthquakes in a earthquake zone? Good idea. Evacuation plans if you live in an area prone to flash flooding? Smart move. Stockpiling tinned food and weaponry for the return of the Annunaki Gods who genetically engineered human beings to mine Gold for them? I think you're straying into la-la-land, and I'm sure you'd agree with us there.

The world is not going to end. It will continue to spin around the sun. life will continue to grow.

If you cannot see the rate the world is changing at before your very eyes, you're not paying attention…
With the human population at SEVEN BILLION people *anyone who's done basic biology/physics knows that what goes up, always comes down*.
Between the massive sink holes, the massive cracks just appearing across Peru and Mexico, the continuous flooding, and now almost every volcano is rumbling and showing signs of activity….
Everything that exists, does so by maintaing a balance. Tip the scales, and consequences are inevitable.

I'm not a doomsday nut, I'm a realist and look at the world for what it is, and how it is physically impossible to continue on the path we are going.
Not enough food.
Not enough clean, fresh water.
Not enough space.
Not enough resources.
Not enough money can be made to keep the global market afloat.
We have poisoned the oceans with oil, radiation, and garbage, and not to mention, have pretty much ate it clean of wild fish.
We have completely destroyed the lands we live on, and destroyed species like it's no big deal.

To tell people to not even think about being prepared for future events is ridiculous. I'd learn how to take care of yourself with out the help of anyone else, cause how do you expect to go to the grocery store to stock your fridge, when the American dollar becomes worthless? When trucks stop delivering, and the economy comes to a grinding halt? *If you read the news on the meltdown of the world economy, with the US leading the way, you can clearly see there is no way around it… unless you're watching FOX and reading the SUN.. lol

Stocking up on bottled water and dry food sounds like a bad idea? Well I was raised with the mindset "always be prepared". I'm not quitin my job and running for the hills, but I'm keeping a close eye on the current events and I see a dangerous storm up ahead…

Nothing happens before I'm wrinkled, well damn… the "Apocalypse" sounded exciting…
If SHTF you'd be sitting there, probley waiting for the government to come help you, and wishing you had a plan.