You have missed the point here with this diversionary analysis.

You seem to have missed the point of this website. Our purpose is to define, study and analyze the arguments, not divert from them. You have not attempted to engage the arguments, but simply wave them away.

The crossing of the Galactic Eclitpic for the first time in25,625 years is what all of this excitement is about. You have not even mentioned it, so how can it be a hoax?

Actually, we have mentioned it, just not on this page. Please refer to the galactic alignment page and its sub-pages.

Furthermore, you are misusing the terms of astronomy. As Bikenbeer2000 said, there is no such thing as a 'galactic ecliptic'. That phrase is meaningless. You probably are referring to one of the various 'alignment' scenarios that are commonplace in the 2012-proponent literature. There is the "solstice alignment" claim, the "crossing the galactic plane" claim, the "aligning with the black hole" claim, etc.
To misuse or redefine the terms of astronomy for your own purpose does not serve your argument.

We will be entering the opposite magnetic hemisphere of our galaxy

The what?

… which should cause some pretty major upheavals on Earth

How?

… and the Sun will be re-energized by the extreme magnetic centrifugance of the ecliptic plane,

There is no such thing as "magnetic centrifugance of the ecliptic plane". Now I see why we completely missed this topic… it's utter nonsense.

… relasing an enormous amount of Solar radiation as we receive an EM pulse "heart beat" from the galactic core, otherwise known as the Hunab K'u.

"otherwise known" by whom? To the Maya "Hunab K'u" was a minor deity.

The heart beat (EM core pulse) of the galaxy is once every 5,125 years.

If that is true, then we should be able to see a wave of 're-energized' stars in concentric circles from the galactic core every 5,125 light years. Perhaps I missed this finding. Would you care to show us where it can be found in the astronomical literature?

The Sun's circuit

The what?

… will overload and nobody knows just how severe the effect will be here on Earth.

I do. Zero.

There are so many unknowns, because there is no written history of the last time we passed through the galactic ecliptic.

Because it has never happened. We also don't have records of the last time the face of Bozo the Clown appeared on the moon.

This is why there is an enormous amount of fear and speculation.

The reason why there is an enormous amount of fear and speculation is because people like yourself have no problem spewing nonsense with all of the breathless "nobody knows what will happen" phrases scattered about.

For good reason.

No, not really. You have yet to demonstrate that you comprehend the basics of astronomy, let alone grasp the more esoteric topics. Yet you come here and present your ideas as if they are fact, and that everybody should know them.

This planet will undergo serious physical changes for sure.

The mechanism you describe does not, and can not, exist. Therefore I doubt that it will cause any serious physical changes on our planet.

It is going to be a bumby ride to say the least.

I imagine that people who seriously believe that something significant will happen on 12/21/2012 will have a difficult time explaining themselves on 12/22.

Also, according to the Maya this will begin the next round of 5 Suns on 12-21-2012

Oh my. More confusion between Maya and Aztec cosmology.

… and this will be the 1st Sun of the new 25,625 year cycle away from and returning to the galactic eclitpic.

Since this structure does not exist, I fail to see how we can "cycle away" and back.

See chapter 8 in my free online book at the website I have posted here. You will find a lot of dissenting information about 2012, which is absolutely unknown by the vast majority of researchers.

Do you mean the very strange page you can reach by clicking your name on your post? That is not an 'online book', it is a collection of links to some of the stranger and most esoteric branches of pseudo-science. Tesla, plasma universe, Vedic astronomy, energy vorticies, and free energy for all, all wrapped up in a rambling and paranoid rant about how all of these technologies are being hidden by "… the cia/nsa/dod spooks who hide or suppress them for the sake of corporate amerika and their addiction to aristocratic control, war, elitism, power, money, drugs, crime, cruelty, pedophilia and mind controlled, sex slaves. "¹

Namaste Amigos!

Yeah, whatever. You need some help.

The Galactic equator is the astronomical term for the dividing line of the Milky Way Band, separating the left and right "lobes" of the sky … . On Earth, we experience distinct field-effect properties on the different sides of the equator. For example, … hurricanes and tornadoes in the Southern Hemisphere spin in the opposite direction of those in the Northern Hemisphere. Any spinning body will exhibit these properties, and there is no reason to deny that the same phenomenon holds true for the Milky Way. On the Galactic level, the Milky Way's equator, like the Earth's equator, is the field-effect dividing line. As with a spinning magnetic top, the field effects on one side are different from those on the other, and Maya insights offer us the notion that a field-effect reversal occurs when the solstice meridian crosses over this line. …I would like to emphasize that the Galactic equator -the precise edge of our spiraling Galaxy- is the zero point location of the turnabout moment in the cycle of precession. This World Age shift occurs when the solstice sun crosses over the Galactic equator, and thus the Galactic alignment in 2012 is about a field-effect energy-reversal. .. But what does this mean for life on Earth? What kind of field effects will be present on Earth during the 2012 alignment? And what occurs when the solstice meridian transistions to the other side? As suggested byt the spinning-hurrican metaphor, our basic orientations will be inverted.²

I assume that AstroGeek will delete this post for being a violation of Fair Use. I'll try to behave myself next time.

The crossing of the Galactic Eclitpic for the first time in25,625 years is what all of this excitement is about.

There is no such thing as a galactic ecliptic. The ecliptic is the plane of the earth's orbit around the Sun. It has nothing to do with the galaxy. I assume you must mean galactic central plane. The solar system last crossed this plane about 3 million years ago, as you can read here: http://www.2012hoax.org/galactic-plane

We will be entering the opposite magnetic hemisphere of our galaxy

There is no such thing as a magnetic hemisphere either.
What happens every 25,800 (not 25,625) years is the Earth's axis points to roughly the same part of the sky. This affects the direction in which we have to point our telescopes. Away from the vicinity of the Earth it means nothing.

extreme magnetic centrifugance of the ecliptic plane

Meaningless gobbledygook.

..as we receive an EM pulse "heart beat" from the galactic core, otherwise known as the Hunab K'u. The heart beat (EM core pulse) of the galaxy is once every 5,125 years.

Pure fiction!

The Sun's circuit will overload

What circuit would that be?
Congratulations. You have managed to cram more meaningless nonsense into a few paragraphs than anything I've come across for quite some time. I won't ask you to provide any scientific references for this as I know perfectly well there won't be any.

The crossing of the Galactic Eclitpic for the first time in25,625 years is what all of this excitement is about. You have not even mentioned it, so how can it be a hoax?

I believe this is what we call "shifting the burden of prove." It is you who have to prove that this isn't a hoax.

We will be entering the opposite magnetic hemisphere of our galaxy which should cause some pretty major upheavals on Earth and the Sun will be re-energized by the extreme magnetic centrifugance of the ecliptic plane, relasing an enormous amount of Solar radiation as we receive an EM pulse "heart beat" from the galactic core, otherwise known as the Hunab K'u. The heart beat (EM core pulse) of the galaxy is once every 5,125 years.

How do you know this?

The Sun's circuit will overload and nobody knows just how severe the effect will be here on Earth.

How do you know the sun is going to overload? The human race has only been monitoring the sun since not too long ago. How can you jump to a conclusion as such with so much certainty?

There are so many unknowns, because there is no written history of the last time we passed through the galactic ecliptic.

Exactly, then where is your prove that the earth will…

undergo serious physical changes for sure. It is going to be a bumby ride to say the least.

Let's just say you are right, what kind of serious physical change will we undergo? Will the Earth change it's shape? Or will we simply have earthquakes? We have loads of those every year.

Also, according to the Maya this will begin the next round of 5 Suns on 12-21-2012 and this will be the 1st Sun of the new 25,625 year cycle away from and returning to the galactic eclitpic.

So?

See chapter 8 in my free online book at the website I have posted here. You will find a lot of dissenting information about 2012, which is absolutely unknown by the vast majority of researchers.

…………….

You said,

You have missed the point here with this diversionary analysis.

If it's possible to make any progress here, then we're more likely to make it if I assume you're here to discuss things in good faith, and if you assume the same about the people who posted before you. If you can agree to that, then here goes…

First, could you post the link to your book? When I google'd "Namaste Amigos!", too many links came up for me to examine them.

Regarding the "Galactic Ecliptic", that term seems to be used only on sites that use it mistakenly, to refer to the Galactic Plane. Could you perhaps save us some time, and look over this website's discussion of that plane? I'd be interested in knowing what you think the authors of that page missed.

You also stated

There are so many unknowns, because there is no written history of the last time we passed through the galactic ecliptic.

The link I gave above says that the Earth passed through the Galactic Plane some 3 million years ago, but let's take your number (5,125 years). Although you say there are many unknowns because there was no written history back then, you still seem to know a great deal about what will happen to the planet this time (e.g., "serious physical changes). Can you tell us how you came to have this information?

See chapter 8 in my free online book at the website I have posted here. You will find a lot of dissenting information about 2012, which is absolutely unknown by the vast majority of researchers.

My dear God, you really are serious huh? I don't want hurt your feelings here, but your page with "info" on this event must be a joke. Please tell me that it is so? The moment I see the mentioning of McKenna and Tesla on the same is about when you lose all credibilty. You seem to know a lot about this (far more than my friend at NASA), so how did you attain this vital information? Same way as Lieder=)

The crossing of the Galactic Eclitpic for the first time in25,625 years is what all of this excitement is about. You have not even mentioned it, so how can it be a hoax? We will be entering the opposite magnetic hemisphere of our galaxy which should cause some pretty major upheavals on Earth and the Sun will be re-energized by the extreme magnetic centrifugance of the ecliptic plane, relasing an enormous amount of Solar radiation as we receive an EM pulse "heart beat" from the galactic core, otherwise known as the Hunab K'u. The heart beat (EM core pulse) of the galaxy is once every 5,125 years.

The Sun's circuit will overload and nobody knows just how severe the effect will be here on Earth. There are so many unknowns, because there is no written history of the last time we passed through the galactic ecliptic. This is why there is an enormous amount of fear and speculation. For good reason. This planet will undergo serious physical changes for sure. It is going to be a bumby ride to say the least.

Also, according to the Maya this will begin the next round of 5 Suns on 12-21-2012 and this will be the 1st Sun of the new 25,625 year cycle away from and returning to the galactic eclitpic.

See chapter 8 in my free online book at the website I have posted here. You will find a lot of dissenting information about 2012, which is absolutely unknown by the vast majority of researchers.

Namaste Amigos!

144,000 is indeed the number of days in 1 Baktun. This is arrived at by multiplying 20 days per winal, by 18 winal per tun, by 20 tuns per k'atun, and 20 k'atuns per Baktun. See the table shown at http://www.2012hoax.org/mayan-prediction

The 144,000 in the book of Revelation refers to 12,000 people from each of the 12 tribes of Israel. Both 12 and 1000 had numerological significance to the Jews. Both Hebrew and Greek had no numerals, and the letters were substituted for numbers. A side effect of this practice is that each word had a 'gammatria', which is to say a numerical equivalent.

To the Hebrew/Greek writers of the New Testament, 12 was the number of 'govenmental perfection'. There were many times the number 12 is used in the Bible. 12 tribes of Israel; 12 Apostles, 12 foundations in the heavenly Jerusalem; 12 gates; 12 pearls; 12 angels. The measurements of New Jerusalem are 12,000 furlongs or stadia, while the wall was to be 144 (12 x 12) cubits (Rev. 21:16-17).

Other than the fact of the coincidence of these numbers being used, there is no connection between the two.

I realize that 13 baktuns is about 1,872,000 which has no significance. But I guess the 144,000 number is associated with the end of the world in some way. Do you have any additional info that may help with this?

My opinion is that civilization will realize our wrongs and start working together. I think that after the fear subsides and the civil disputes settle it'll be a new day in the history of the human species.
I would like to hope 2012 is the year we finally see prosperity.

As for the Mayan calendar, who is to say that the end of the calendar means death? For all we know it means its the last cycle of humanity bound to Earth, and I mean that in terms of space travel and cross planet population.

I don't know about most of you, but I would love to see the surface of the moon, or walk on mars. IMO, this may be our chance.

The discussion is moot, at best unless everyone wishes to continue to debate something as pointless as numerology.

Let's say for a split second, the Maya predicts the "end of the world", if this is correct then why does their calendar and culture indicate a 'new beginning' rather than a destruction?

"End of the world" is just that, the end of our planet, not just our species, so please, someone explain to me why they celebrate a new beginning if the "end of the world" is on the exact date of their "new cycle"?

Perhaps if people would say "the end of the human race!" I could understand because then it would leave open a door of opportunity for evolution to create yet another intelligent life-form but instead people use the phrase "end of the world" over, and over, and over.

Even the highly respected Nostradamus' prophecies extend well beyond the year 2012.

The simple fact is this; People are attempting to toss their own poorly concocted story into the piece of culture that the ancient Maya had left behind. The text isn't even fully or accurately translated but yet people think that they know everything about the Maya.

I say that instead of sitting on your tushes and supporting a scam, you should be trying to better your understanding of their culture and language before coming to a poorly pieced together conclusion.

… so after 52 years of adding 1 day, they would have to add 13 days(a week) to get more accurate.

That would have been pretty smart of them. Unfortunately we have no record of them actually doing this.

13.0.0.0.0 is what the long count calendar look like in 2012.

Actually, if your idea above is correct it would mean that the most common correlation between the modern calendar and the Mayan calendar round is off by… (quick calculation) almost 278 days (figuring from the end of the 'classic' period, about AD 900).

Finding symbolism is fun.

Yes, it can be.

Finding symbolism is fun.

Sure, we now have the scientific data to refine that value to the 11959.89 value. But for someone to use the ancient value and be accurate, they must first manipulate it to approximate the accepted scientific (fractional) value.

Yes, it would have been far easier just to say they had documented the Dresden cycle to be 11,960 days, which happens to be accurate to within less than 0.001%

The Dresden cycle (aka Triple Tritos) is ~11959.89 days, which rounded up gives your 11960.

Multiplying your 11960 by 9, subtracting 1, then dividing back by nine just removes most of the round-off error to get close to the actual number.

Now, as to the 1507/1508/29 math…, since the Earth's year is 365.2524 days, a calendar based on only 365 days would be off by a fraction over one year in every 1508 "years" (Only 1507 real years have passed).

Since the Haab is based on 365 days, it takes 1508 years to be off by approximately one year. This means that the calendar round, the Haab, and the Tzolkin all line up as close as possible every 1507 real years.

Thanks again!