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				<title>Re: Star in the east</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 15:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Astrogeek</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>334222</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Heh!</p> <p>OK, if you come home from your first star party with the 'stargazing bug', then read my advice for getting started in astronomy: <a href="http://astrogeek.wordpress.com/beginners-guide/">http://astrogeek.wordpress.com/beginners-guide/</a></p> 
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				<title>Re: Star in the east</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 07:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>UndeadxNurse</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>473886</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Holy.. crap there are a lot of them.<br /> Found one, though. Gonna try to make it.</p> 
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				<title>Re: Star in the east</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2010 18:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>If you are in the U.S., the best bet is to look up "NASA Night Sky Network" which has links to various amateur astronomy clubs. Contact them to see when they have local star parties. The amateurs set up their scopes and let people look through them, and usually these are no-charge.</p> 
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				<title>Re: Star in the east</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2010 06:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>UndeadxNurse</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>473886</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>I would love to see Saturn, I may search around here for a place that will let me use their scopes.</p> 
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				<title>Re: Star in the east</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2010 05:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Jupiter's rings can't be seen from Earth's surface without a gargantuan telescope.</p> <p>I tried to get a shot of the planet and visible moons tonight, but the battery on my view-finder is dead, and I couldn't stay on target long enough for a photo. I really need a better scope. The result would have looked something like this:</p> <p><a href="http://www.macobserver.com/article/2008/10/28.5.shtml">http://www.macobserver.com/article/2008/10/28.5.shtml</a></p> <p>Saturn's rings, on the other hand, can be seen with a relatively small scope.</p> 
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				<title>Re: Star in the east</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2010 02:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Can you see the rings? Can you take a picture through the scope? I wanna see! lol</p> 
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				<title>Re: Star in the east</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 22:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>I concur with JuJu.</p> <p>You should probably borrow a scope, or go to a star party, and they will show it to you up close. It's very pretty right now.</p> 
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				<title>Re: Star in the east</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 09:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Okay thanks Juju!</p> 
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				<title>Re: Star in the east</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 07:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>EggDude, you are seeing Jupiter. It's apparent magnitude is currently around -2.86, which is quite bright.</p> 
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				<title>Re: Star in the east</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 05:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>It is very bright, almost as bright as the moon.</p> 
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				<title>Star in the east</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 05:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Just wondering which star/planet I'm seeing every night in the east beside the moon. I live in Vancouver B.C Canada, looking east at around 8 p.m to 11 p.m local time.</p> 
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				<title>Re: The Big Book of Nibiru claims</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 18:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>I wonder if it's aliens or just the voices in her head she might want to see a psychritrist.</p> 
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				<title>Re: The Big Book of Nibiru claims</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 18:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <blockquote> <blockquote> <p>Nancy Lieder…<br /> Crazy person? Gets detailed information from alien civilizations?</p> </blockquote> </blockquote> <p>C'mon, now. It's not like she claims that they show up at her house or call her on the phone. That would be positively ridiculous, even crazy. Rather, they communicate with her <em>telepathically</em>, which is a totally different story.</p> <img src="http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a97/insanebluejay/action-smiley-006.gif" alt="action-smiley-006.gif" class="image" />
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				<title>Re: The Big Book of Nibiru claims</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>UndeadxNurse</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>473886</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Nancy Lieder…<br /> Crazy person? Gets detailed information from alien civilizations?</p> <p>If so, I'll go back to watching cartoons, eating my cereal and ever so slightly gigglesnorting at this woman's theories.</p> 
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				<title>Re: The Big Book of Nibiru claims</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 06:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>could be… after all, she gives such detailed instructions</p> <p>"To the RIGHT of the sun, I told you!"</p> 
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				<title>Re: The Big Book of Nibiru claims</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 15:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Or my theory is Nancy Leider is the one guiding Nibiru here and took a wrong turn and has been lost for the last several years.</p> 
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				<title>Re: The Big Book of Nibiru claims</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 15:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>If it's fleshed enough - I see that list as a brain dump of the stuff I've come across rather than a refined list.</p> <p>Looking over that link reminded me that plenty of people have claimed its mass too. They know so much, and can provide absolutely no evidence. Bizzzzzarrrre…</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 06:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>excellent list. Can you add it to the page, or can I add it to the page for you?</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 01:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Most of this nonsense seems to have been recycled from 1999: <a href="http://www.rense.com/ufo5/nib2000.htm">http://www.rense.com/ufo5/nib2000.htm</a><br /> Strangely enough, it failed to show for its predicted arrival in 2003.<br /> They will never learn.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 01:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>It's only really now, after seeing another nonsense claim on YouTube, that I've sat back a bit and tried to work out just how many claims there have been regarding where Nibiru is and what it will do, even what it is doing right now.</p> <p>I doubt this is complete either, and serves more as a talking point at the minute.</p> <p>What is it?</p> <ul> <li>Brown dwarf</li> <li>Planet orbiting a brown dwarf</li> <li>Nemesis, the Sun's companion</li> <li>Starship</li> </ul> <p>For the most part, people are 'consistent' with the brown dwarf angle. Which of course goes completely against what Sitchin first proposed Nibiru to be…</p> <p>Where is it?</p> <ul> <li>'Edge of our solar system'</li> <li>60-66 AU from the Sun</li> <li>'Coming from the south'</li> <li>'Near the sun'</li> <li>'Behind the sun'</li> <li>Behind the black boxes in Google Sky</li> <li>Exactly where Venus/Mars/Jupiter/CW Leonis/SNR G1.9+0.3 is (you think maybe you're actually looking at those objects, hmm?)</li> <li>'At these coordinates' (which usually point to a known object, or a black box in Google)</li> <li>In the constellation of…</li> </ul> <p>Wherever it is, it is of course 'being tracked by the Government'…</p> <p>What will it do?</p> <ul> <li>Collide with Earth</li> <li>Come close to Earth, but not collide (that'd be devastating…)</li> <li>Flip the Earth over on it's axis</li> <li>Reverse the magnetic poles</li> <li>Stop the Earth from rotating for a precise amount of time, before we begin to rotate again (and possibly backwards if I remember rightly)</li> <li>Create huge storms, tsunamis, earthquakes and the like</li> <li>Add to the gravitational troubles of the galactic alignment (you know, the troubles that we just don't feel…)</li> </ul> <p>What is it doing already?</p> <ul> <li>[insert date of Earthquake here]</li> <li>[insert date of Volcano here]</li> <li>[insert each and every storm warning here]</li> <li>Sinkholes (always sinkholes, it's like Nibiru is constantly poking Earth)</li> <li>Shrinking the Moon (you read that correctly)</li> <li>Causing coronal mass ejections/solar flares/solar storms from the Sun</li> <li>Producing it's own coronal mass ejections (I think one claim mentioned that one of Nibiru's CME's vaporized a comet. Sounds interesting, were it not for the fact that it was an internal reflection and diffraction artifact from STEREO of Venus leaving the field of view…)</li> <li>Norway Spiral / Australian Spiral</li> </ul> <p>Did you get a parking ticket recently? Nibiru has it in for you, man…</p> <p>Why can't we see it?</p> <ul> <li>'They' are censoring it (with a black box, dun-dun-duuun)</li> <li>It's a brown dwarf</li> <li>It's only visible from the South Pole</li> <li>Only visible with infrared equipment</li> <li>'They' don't want to cause a panic</li> <li>It's invisible/cloaked</li> <li>It doesn't actually exist</li> </ul> <p>Oh no, sorry, that last claim was mine…</p> <p>What are 'they'/The Government doing about it?</p> <ul> <li>Silencing/censoring/deleting videos (oh gosh no, not the videos!)</li> <li>Building bunkers (and spending trillions of dollars on them too)</li> <li>Keeping vast seed reserves</li> <li>Tracking it</li> </ul> <p>Reasons not to take any evidence to the contrary:</p> <ul> <li>We work for 'the Government'</li> <li>We are trolls</li> <li>'They' want you to think that</li> <li>CONSPIRACY (with or without 'the government', the 'NWO', the Annunaki themselves, Reptilians, NASA. Goddamn NASA…)</li> <li>The evidence disagrees with us (well, nobody has actually claimed that, but I bet that's what some are thinking)</li> <li>I had a vision, it's stronger than any evidence you can offer. (I must meditate too sometime. If only to rest my brain from trying to reason with you…)</li> </ul> <p>Damn. Big list. Full of contradictions, backed up with no credible evidence, and uploaded in some form or other on a daily basis. The things we do to combat it, eh?</p> 
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