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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 21:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>obaeyens</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>612249</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <blockquote> <p>What is the 26000 alignment that supposably occurs in 2012 is this the work of pseudoscience?</p> </blockquote> <p>When will you ever learn that the usage of the word <em>alignment</em> is a big neons sign with the words pseudo-science!</p> 
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 21:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <blockquote> <p>So we won't align with the galactic plane for another 30 million years</p> </blockquote> <p>Since when did an alignment do anything except for a photogenic picture?</p> 
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 20:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Astrogeek</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>334222</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>The short answer is &quot;Yes&quot;.</p> <p>The long answer is &quot;The people making this claim are hopelessly confused.&quot;.</p> <p>As Gary A says, the 26,000 year number comes from the period of the precession of the equinoxes. This is a very gradual motion that occurs over the course of 26,000 years for it to complete a full circle. So to say that it &quot;occurs in 2012&quot; is technically correct, because it occurs in <strong>every</strong> year. The impression they want to give you is that every 26,000 years, because of this precession of the equinoxes, something on earth lines up with something else in the galaxy, and then something magic happens.</p> <p>It's nonsense. Yes, it is the work of pseudoscience. This is how con-men work, by the way, they use a kernel of truth (in this case the scientific fact of precession) to build their lies on (something lines up, and something magic happens) in order to get you to shell over your money for their worthless product.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 20:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Gary A</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>844537</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Kind of. The whole 26,000 year thing comes from the <a href="http://www.2012hoax.org/precession">precession cycle</a>. This takes roughly 26,000 years to complete, but it could complete a cycle today, tomorrow, the day after etc. Since there's no start date of a precession cycle, there can't be an end date. There's arguments over whether the Maya were aware of precession, Anthony Aveni says not, Mark Van Stone disagrees. It's nothing to do with 2012 and it's just another cosmic occurrence nutters have put their own spin on.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 20:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Ian08</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>1054875</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>What is the 26000 alignment that supposably occurs in 2012 is this the work of pseudoscience?</p> 
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 14:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Ian;</p> <p>Again, it depends on what exactly you are talking about.</p> <p>The 30 million year cycle is where the solar system passes up and down through the center plane of the disk of the galaxy. This happens every 33 million years or so, happened about 3 million years ago, and is not going to happen again any time soon.</p> <p>There are other so-called 'alignments' which we cover in the links on the left. None of them have any consequences for earth.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>So we won't align with the galactic plane for another 30 million years</p> 
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 11:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>You wonna know why safron? Its because theyre psuedo-scientists and psuedo-science is bad</p> 
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 09:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Notice how bizarre &amp; strange it is that people confuse the ~26,000 year precession of the equinox cycle with the ~30 million year sidereal galactic orbit cycle and say strange sentences like &quot;we align with the plane every 26k years&quot;.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2011 21:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Yeh kidcruze , It seems to me like you'r going around the internet looking for every psuedo-scientific claim , and wanting us to debunk it , this is what I did before , dont do it but if you'r not then good.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2011 17:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Kidcruze, you seem to have this knack to follow every possible false lead and to ignore all real true leads.</p> <p>The solar system is not heating up, a few bodies are heating up and has nothing related to the sun itself, and all other hundreds of other objects and moons <span style="text-decoration: underline;">do not</span> heat up!</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2011 17:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>TheGreatJuju has covered it pretty well in <a href="http://www.2012hoax.org/forum/t-367702/moon-orbit-is-wrong-sais-cornell-university#post-1183131">this posting</a>.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2011 17:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Can someone help me out in seeing through the claim that the solar system is heating up that many proponents make?</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2011 17:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>No. You need to read what is says underneath:<br /> <em>A typical bogus illustration of &quot;Crossing the Galactic Plane&quot;.</em></p> 
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						 <p>I read this page but was still confused by the illustration to the upper right corner. Are we going to be at the center of the galactic disk in 2012?</p> 
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				<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2011 01:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <blockquote> <blockquote> <p>Anyone can edit wiki content. The wiki reference can only be used for start point.</p> </blockquote> </blockquote> <p>Nice necro, Wayne. Do you have some kind of point? The Wikipedia articles in question happen to be well-sourced and consistent with current scientific understanding on the issues. If you disagree, then have a look <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_magnetic_field#References">here</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_magnetic_field#External_links">here</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plate_tectonics#References">here</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plate_tectonics#External_links">here</a>, and tell us what you think is wrong with that information. Needling little posts in long-dead discussions are pretty much useless.</p> 
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						 <p>Anyone can edit wiki content. The wiki reference can only be used for start point.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 00:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>whoever comes up with these doesn't really do any research whatsoever . they just imagine it. seriously if this guy had done any research he would have been contradicted a million times over</p> 
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				<title>Re: 1 million of years - too much for us!</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 27 Dec 2010 23:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>To be a tad more specific with obaeyens answer, for every hypothetical study that uses a Nemesis like object to explain something, you'll find another study which comes to the conclusion that such an object wouldn't actually explain something.</p> <p>Good ol' i09 <a href="http://io9.com/5586205/study-a-death-star-named-nemesis-isnt-to-blame-for-mass-extinctions">spoke a bit about it a while back</a></p> 
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				<title>Re: 1 million of years - too much for us!</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 27 Dec 2010 22:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Nemesis does not exist.</p> 
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