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				<title>Re: Thanks!</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 02:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>I am glad you have taken the time to read this site and that you are no longer scared. Most none believers do get mad at the made up stuff as it scare many. As many would say if you ever have any question dont be scared to ask them here some will help you out on that for sure.</p> 
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				<title>Thanks!</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 21:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>I'm 11 and I was so scared and depressed when I heard about 2012. I hadn't even researched anything and I heard all this stuff about Bible Codes and Planet X hitting the Earth. Thanks for making this website, it's helped me to realize that these people are just trying to stir up drama and make money off of movies and books. I kind of feel stupid now for even bealiving what those people said… I mean just look at how many times that everyone said that the end of the world would come, 2000, 2003, 2006, etc. and many more. Plus all of these Christians are bealiving that God will come for them and Jesus yet the Bible says only God knows when the world will come to an end… which means they are going against the Bible. And also my mom said that the Bible has mant differnt virsions, so I bet that they are making the Bible Codes up… and they said that Obama would be killedin 2007 and that never happened! It makes me angry when people make up random dates and lie about when the end of the world will be, when they have no idea how people will react… they don't care about the sake of others- they only worry about themselves and how wealthy they will end up at the end of the day. As for people like Nancy lieder, I think she needs to go to a therapist and all others who bealive in her. I read that she says she gets abducted every Thrusday. She's a nutball, and I think shye's being serious! People like her make me sad and angry. Also, as for people hiding in caves and bunkers and all that, that is dumb because even if it were the end of the world in 2012, why would you want to live through it anyway? All the animals and plants you eat would be destoryed, therefore you'd end up dead anyway. And this wesite is amazing, it was written good and it helped me realize that all of these people are weirdeos trying to make money. We're all going to die anyway… lets just make the best of our lives, and worry more about things like World Hunger, people living in the streets and finding cures for people with cancer and things instead of the end ofthe world…</p> 
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				<title>Re: Thank you guys!</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Jim Smith</wikidot:authorName>								<content:encoded>
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						 <p>This is a great discussion you're having. Very helpful to me.</p> <p>Your comments on how Jcattera and others can get people to believe in Nibiru without any real evidence for it reminds me of something from a good book I'm reading: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Classroom-Discussions-Using-Students-Grades/dp/0941355535/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1279885539&amp;sr=8-2" >Classroom Discussions: using math talk to help students learn.</a> The authors' teaching techniques, tested in low-income schools over several years, taught elementary students to communicate their observations, conjectures, and analyses clearly, and to support them with evidence in group discussions.</p> <p>A lot of the students "didn't like" this, but they saw its benefits. As one of them said in a post-course interview, it was important to learn to explain yourself in math class because, "In real life, if you can't explain and don't have evidence, it doesn't count".</p> <p>Well, we all know that to a lot of people, yes, it does. I guess the question is whether we want to be one of those easily-hoodwinked people, and therefore go through life both panicked and foolishly complacent, in constant alternation.</p> 
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				<title>Re: Thank you guys!</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>VonHelton.</p> <p>Yeah, he's the guy I went around with about the nonexistent "Hellion 1957" last year. He accused me of working for the government and being part of a "cabal of atheist naysayers and haters."</p> <p>I long ago filed him away under "unreachable," but I still occasionally respond to him because some people actually believe his insane crap.</p> 
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				<title>Re: Thank you guys!</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Neither, its a diffraction artifact caused by Jupiter. Essentially, check out the images on <a href="http://stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov/artifacts/artifacts_reflections.shtml">this page</a>, but wherever you see 'Venus' in the example images, substitute in 'Jupiter'.</p> <p>In this recent case Jupiter left the field of view somewhere around June 20th, causing a ring reflection, and by the 25th the Light was diffracting off the instrument (the funny triangular comet like shape we're talking about now) and come July 10th-ish if I recall Venus pops into view (for real, for we know what Venus is, and Venus isn't an image artifact).</p> <p>It'd be no surprise to me if Venus does exactly the same thing sometime soon, when it too leaves the field of view - a ring reflection and a diffraction artifact, all over the course of a few days.</p> <p>And if I've just said this to you on YouTube, hi there. Someone asked this exact question this morning, but phrased a bit differently.</p> <p>Regarding VonI'veforgottenhisusernamealready, it's a classic example of not bothering to do any research and then just guessing at an images content. Really useful way to approach science that… And it doesn't matter how much he rants, if he can't get any evidence together he doesn't have a case.</p> 
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				<title>Thank you guys!</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Hey guys I want to thank you for solving the GREAT mystery of that one SOHO or STEREO video of a very bright Venus. I understand now. And since I know this I've been spreading the word around websites and youtube to people that really believed it was a Dark star or Nibiru. And now they know it's not! They're just like me. And I feel really good knowing that I helped people. :D But anyways, since then they have been doing the same. And I found this one man who is also like Jcattera. But he has NO eveidence or videos of him "filming" Nibiru or anything fictional this way. He get's the news from other's and spreads it also. So what a lot of people did is let him know that the video he was showing it just Venus. And now he has released this video…</p> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_am_pVo-Bc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_am_pVo-Bc</a></p> <p>Take a look. It's 10 minutes. Wouldn't that just be a comet or asteroid? I really doubt that Venus or any planet in OUR solar system has a tail. Just let me know what you guys think. And thanks again. You guys are truly life savers. And heroes! Cheers!</p> 
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				<title>Re: Ohnooooooooo!</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 22:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <blockquote> <p>Again.</p> </blockquote> <p>Ain't that the truth. He'll never stop trying to find it either.</p> 
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				<title>Re: Ohnooooooooo!</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Eh, <a href="http://secchi.lmsal.com/EUVI/">EUVI</a> can apparently observe <a href="http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2007/12mar_stereoeclipse/">transits</a>, but I don't think the Moon would show up as I said earlier, and not on HI1.</p> <p>In any case, no Nibiru or Nibiru's dwarf for Jcattera. Again.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>The only instrument looking close enough on each satellite to see Earth and our Moon is the HI2. Going to wrack my brains now trying to remember if the Moon is bright enough to be seen within that data.</p> <p>As you can see on the various STEREO pages though, the HI2 imagery isn't quite as pretty as all the others, so it's no surprise to see people avoiding it and sticking with good old HI1, COR2 and LASCO's C3 over on SOHO.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <blockquote> <blockquote> <p>The moon? You sure about that, or is this another wild claim from Nibiru believers?</p> </blockquote> </blockquote> <p>No, I'm not sure, or else I would not have said "probably." See <a href="http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a97/insanebluejay/SunMoon_07112010.jpg">included screen</a>.</p> <blockquote> <blockquote> <p>This page is the bare minimum amount of research you need for STEREO claims, it's surprising how few people bother to look at it while they wait for their latest batch of images to download.</p> </blockquote> </blockquote> <p>Yep. There's a clear shot of Venus from the Behind craft, and I don't know that the Moon is ever in STEREO's FOV. I watch SOHO frequently, but I usually only visit the STEREO site when someone claims some doomsday object is out there.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>The moon? You sure about that, or is this another wild claim from Nibiru believers?</p> <p><a href="http://stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov/beacon/planets/">This page</a> is the bare minimum amount of research you need for STEREO claims, it's surprising how few people bother to look at it while they wait for their latest batch of images to download.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Jcattera is either a liar or a complete idiot. He claims, <em>"It's obvious that 'they' don't want us knowing what's coming or this would be all over the news!"</em> Well, if that's true, why would "they" publish it on the Internet, which they know to be scoured by enterprising woo-woos like Jcattera daily? Further, he incorrectly introduces the clip as "SOHO C3" but then shows footage compiled from STEREO Behind HI1. Those are different cameras on different spacecrafts, launched more than a decade apart.</p> <p>As has become my routine in addressing Nibiru claims, I ask, where is the gravitational chaos such a body would inflict upon the solar system? It doesn't exist, which should tell you something.</p> <p>The object in <a href="http://stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov/browse/2010/07/11/behind/hi1/512/">that video</a> <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">is probably <a href="http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a97/insanebluejay/SunMoon_07112010.jpg">the moon</a></span> is probably <a href="http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a97/insanebluejay/STEREO_771022337.gif">Venus</a>. Keep in mind the following from NASA's STEREO site, especially the last line:</p> <p><em>"For the Heliospheric Imager (HI) images below, the order is reversed to reflect the fact that the HI Ahead telescopes look to the left of the Sun, and those on Behind look to the right. Also, the HI images are not rotated to put solar north up."</em></p> <p>Jcattera's claim about earthquake mayhem is <a href="http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eqarchives/year/eqstats.php">false</a> (like most of his claims), and we see temperature records every year.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>It's Venus and a lens flare, nothing unusual, I'll have a video out in a day or two about this, probably edit this post with the link I guess.</p> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFmzAkbKED4">And there we go, one video.</a></p> 
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				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 09:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>I can't really say what is on the video since I don't know enough about Stereo/LASCO. But what I can say is that this guy, Jcattera, is one of the biggest frauds out there (on YT). He keeps on posting these updates as if he were the one and only source sitting on the infinite truth. Honestly, I wouldn't listen one bit to what he has to say (since he has made the most hilarious claims, and all utterly false).</p> <p>That being said, I'll leave the scientific stuff to those who actually understands what they are looking at (which neither I nor Jcattera does).</p> 
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				<title>Ohnooooooooo!</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 04:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbYhUOzfwkQ&amp;feature=channel">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbYhUOzfwkQ&amp;feature=channel</a></p> <p>Discuss?</p> <p>ARE WE DOOMED!?</p> <p>But in all reality, what's going on?</p> 
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				<title>Re: Asteroid # 128 is Nemesis :0</title>
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						 <p>No, that would be the Tunguska incident (a huge explosion in Siberia that flattened a lot of trees in 1908). I think the most probable hypothesis for the event is a fairly "loose" asteroid or meteorite which exploded in the air.</p> <p>But definitely it wasn't "25 Jupiter diameters" wide. If it was ever that wide, it would have swallowed the entire planet and we wouldn't be here writing stuff on this forum, obviously.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 06:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>well now i know and knowing is half the battle</p> 
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				<title>Re: whats the difference?</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 06:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>No.</p> <p>"<a href="http://www.2012hoax.org/nemesis">Nemesis</a>" is (or at least was) a scientific theory designed to explain a perceived pattern of extinction in the fossil record. I say "perceived" because it is not at all a settled issue whether or not such a pattern even exists. See <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemesis_(star">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemesis_(star</a>) for details.</p> <p>"<a href="http://www.2012hoax.org/wormwood">Wormwood</a>" on the other hand was the name given to an object that falls to the earth in the book of "Revelations" in the Bible.</p> <p>They are not the same for one simple reason: Whatever "Wormwood" is, or referenced, it falls to the earth. Nemesis is proposed to exist at a distance between 50,000 and 100,000 astronomical units, and never, ever, approaches the inner solar system.</p> 
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						 <p>arent nemesis and wormwood the same thing?</p> 
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				<title>Re: Asteroid # 128 is Nemesis :0</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 03:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>And brown dwarfs can't get much bigger than Jupiter, diameter-wise, due to gravitational contraction. While it is theoretically possible to have an object that is larger than Jupiter, the fact is piling more mass onto a large planet/small brown dwarf will merely compact that mass.</p> 
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