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				<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 20:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>obaeyens</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>612249</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Sim, if I am not mistaken, your messages were about gamma rays.<br /> I really fail to see what the Gamma rays in your texts has anything to do about credible resources.<br /> None of your quotes whatsoever (if I recall them) had anything to do with something here local on Earth.<br /> None of your quotes about gamma rays is meaningful to the life here on Earth.</p> <p>It was just a series of quote mining giving the impression that gamma rays are something bad. Gamma rays are bad but not the ones you mentioned in the quotes.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 18:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <blockquote> <p>Thanks for you replies, the information i posted was shown to me by anxious individuals and not dug as you say, one was in fact in the front page of my local paper.</p> </blockquote> <p>Changing your story now?</p> <blockquote> <p>you seem a little paranoid and perhaps obsessed with conspiracy theories yourself.</p> </blockquote> <p>Curious conclusion, seeing how you wrote, <em>&quot;Or perhaps it is preferable that nothing challenging is posted?&quot;</em> You are suggesting here that maybe we censor &quot;challenging&quot; content, yes? Do you have any evidence to support this suggestion?</p> <blockquote> <p>I was hoping to use this site as a creditable resource for clients</p> </blockquote> <p>&quot;Clients,&quot; eh?</p> <blockquote> <p>however your apparent bias</p> </blockquote> <p>Bias toward what? Logic, evidence and good science? Guilty as charged. If something else, maybe you'd care to explain.</p> <blockquote> <p>and immature final comment</p> </blockquote> <p>My final comment is a loose <a href="http://www.iep.utm.edu/reductio/">reductio</a> commentary on your <a href="http://www.fallacyfiles.org/poiswell.html">accusation</a>.</p> <blockquote> <p>clearly shows this would not be a safe site for the vulnerable people i work with</p> </blockquote> <p>If the people you work with are concerned about 2012 claims and willing to learn, then this is the perfect place, but you are apparently working on the misguided notion that this is a therapy group or general &quot;debunking&quot; hub for whatever you can come up with. While it is true we have ventured out onto tangents more than once (e.g. Harold Camping, C/2010 X1, etc.), there is simply no way, even with the constant effort of everyone here, to address in detail every single conspiracy claim, hoax, misunderstanding and pseudoscience that goes viral on the Internet.</p> <p>If you are angry because we don't allow copyrighted content to be pasted into posts wholesale, or because you attacked us with baseless claims and fallacies that were then pointed out to you, that's unfortunate but ultimately nobody's concern, save your own.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 14:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Good.</p> <p>One less moron to deal with.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 12:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <blockquote> <p>I was hoping to use this site as a creditable resource for clients however your apparent bias and immature final comment clearly shows this would not be a safe site for the vulnerable people i work with kind Regards</p> </blockquote> <p>This site cannot be used as a therapy. We are not medically trained to do that.</p> <p>Second there is a limit in how far we can go scientifically. We could post complete papers, but it is pointless if the people coming here have no science background or even the capability to understand what is scientifically written.</p> <p>Third copyright issues when you copy and paste a complete article here.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 08:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Sim</wikidot:authorName>								<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Thanks for you replies, the information i posted was shown to me by anxious individuals and not dug as you say, one was in fact in the front page of my local paper. you seem a little paranoid and perhaps obsessed with conspiracy theories yourself. I was hoping to use this site as a creditable resource for clients however your apparent bias and immature final comment clearly shows this would not be a safe site for the vulnerable people i work with kind Regards</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 07:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <blockquote> <p>perhaps it would simply be enough to suggest that this site is kept up to date with current scientific knowledge :) It would really help those who come here for clarity :)</p> </blockquote> <p>This site is plenty up to date, and anybody interested can follow the cited sources on any given article. That you anoint yourself keeper of the scrolls by attempting to copy-paste entire articles you dug up for whatever reason doesn't suggest otherwise. I don't care what your excuse is. Just don't do it anymore.</p> <blockquote> <p>Or perhaps it is preferable that nothing challenging is posted?</p> </blockquote> <p>Conspiracies conjured by your imagination aren't my concern.</p> <blockquote> <p>fair enough too, however as i said i was not able to post links which makes is somewhat laborious to provide references etc by today's standards.</p> </blockquote> <p>Filtered links posted by guests and low karma users are the doing of Wikidot, not this site specifically. You can get creative with your formatting and make it work if so inclined, and you can even use a service like <a href="http://www.tinyurl.com">TinyURL</a> to perhaps make the process somewhat <em>less</em> laborious for you. That said, if a particular link isn't about black holes as relating to 2012 claims, it doesn't belong here, and you are spamming.</p> <blockquote> <p>As a site offering facts it would be nice to see a strong current scientific case rather than one which risks misleading your readers :)</p> </blockquote> <p>It would also be nice if you wouldn't beat your wife.</p> <p>See how that works?</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 04:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>perhaps it would simply be enough to suggest that this site is kept up to date with current scientific knowledge :) It would really help those who come here for clarity :)</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 04:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>fair enough too, however as i said i was not able to post links which makes is somewhat laborious to provide references etc by today's standards.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 04:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>The site creator has had problems arise in the past because of people copy and pasting entire articles and web pages. In fact if I remember correctly he has been threatened with legal action so that is why it is proper to post links to the material instead of copy and pasting the whole thing on the forums. I don't see how you get that &quot;nothing challenging should be posted&quot; because even posting the link you get the same point across.</p> 
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						 <p>Or perhaps it is preferable that nothing challenging is posted?</p> 
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						 <p>I was not allowed to post links as a guest which is why i posted the entire articles. I trust you have reasons relating to rules for deleting the articles. As a site offering facts it would be nice to see a strong current scientific case rather than one which risks misleading your readers :)</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 04:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <blockquote> <p>oh…i was under the impression it could get her in less than half a second and blast us.</p> </blockquote> <p>And why would you be under that impression? None of the aforementioned off-topic articles said anything of the sort that I saw. Your alleged &quot;impression&quot; is merely a product of your imagination.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 04:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>I didn't even bother to read it as I figured it would get deleted by a mod. People need to learn to post links to articles instead of pasting articles in whole form. Especially this person, seeing as they have done it multiple times in this thread it appears.</p> 
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						 <p>Utterly irrelevant ones at that, since the universe's accelerating expansion has nothing to do with black holes whatsoever.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 04:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>TL:DR 0.o What is the trend with copy and pasting full articles?</p> 
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						 <p>[deleted]</p> <p><strong>Note: Links are fine, but do not post entire articles on this forum.</strong></p> 
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						 <p>oh&#8230;i was under the impression it could get her in less than half a second and blast us.</p> 
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						 <p>Isn't it worringsome that you could; step out on the road and get run over, slip in shower, fall down a bank, trip and knock your head on the corner of a table, be in a car acciedent, choke on something you are eating, get a killer disease, drown, die of old age,</p> <p>but it doesn't stop you from walking to places, or driving (<em>or being in the car</em>), showering, eating, swimming and or just living&#8230; And none of these come from outside the sphere we call earth&#8230; The chances of any of these ever happpening to you are slim, but they are there&#8230;</p> <p>The chances of anything coming from mars are million to 1&#8230; (//oh wait War of the Worls musica&#8230; sorry :-) //) The point is unless they have proof that it is actually going to happen in your lifetime&#8230; why worry.</p> 
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						 <p>No point other than updating information ~ pays to keep up with the times eh :)</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 02:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Isn't slipping the shower worrisome?</p> <p>There are <em>billions</em> of ways the Universe can kill you, why fear the ones that operate on timescales you can't even picture in your head, or at distances so vast light itself takes a few lifetimes to cover.</p> 
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