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						 <p>That's too bad, Tristan. I suppose you'll be plagued by them until 2013.</p> 
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						 <p>I actually fell for that I subsribed to his site and now I'm getting bull emails every week . I am so mad i fell for that stupid site</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2011 13:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Good for you! I think we should focus on what is important at this time of uncertainty. There are too many people eager to jump on a wave of profit and ride it to the determinate of others. We should not get carried away by all this talk of the end of the world. I know people who still have food stored up in their basements from the Y2K thing. Some of these people also gave up jobs and moved to locations where they can't find jobs now. People need to think about these things when they are following the advise of these so called experts. What is going to happen when and if life goes on as usual and you've spent your life savings trying to prepare for something that did not happen.<br /> I have been watching the sky and tracking events, it doesn't take an expert to know that things appear to be changing and that some sort of transition is coming and I have my own beliefs about that. It could be a big event with minor implications to the Earth as a whole, man by himself does not truly know and the ancients who are long gone could have been mislead. Life is too short for all this stuff. Learn how you can survive a catastrophe and how you can help others survive a catastrophe and go to bed at night in peace knowing that you are equipped.<br /> Live now! But live a life that you can be proud of. Live a good and suitable life according to what you believe, love one another, be kind to others and help others; this is what will save the world as we know it now and in what ever it shall become in the future.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 03:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <blockquote> <p>So how would we know if this guy is real and if he is keeping a secret from us or if he is just giving misinformation?</p> </blockquote> <p>I have obtained a copy of this guy's 'report' and I will be posting a review of it on this site in due course. I can tell you that it contains nothing that can't be found by surfing the web. There's no new 'essential information'. It's just a scam.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 21:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <blockquote> <p>So how would we know if this guy is real and if he is keeping a secret from us or if he is just giving misinformation?</p> </blockquote> <p>Do some research. Check his claims against that of known scientific fact. That's the problem, there are far too many people blindly believing these idiots without critical thinking. It usually boils down to &quot;he says a lot, sounds convincing, so I'm convinced&quot;. You can ask here and do the same, nobody here expects you to blindly believe them, that's why all claims on this site are backed by reputable sources, so you can check the info out for yourself.</p> 
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						 <p>So how would we know if this guy is real and if he is keeping a secret from us or if he is just giving misinformation?</p> 
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				<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2011 18:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>I feel your pain James. It takes strength for me not to be a smug jerk whenever I hear someone talk about the Maya predicting a poleshift or Niburu. I want to bang my head against the wall.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2011 17:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Its ok to think like this. But if someone were to start asking you whats the deal with the 2012 phenomenon and you start telling them all about how the Maya calendar ends and that they think its the end of the world, then <strong>thats</strong> when it becomes a problem. Most people who have the "if it comes, it comes" style of thinking, will talk all about what they <em>heard</em> without actually doing any research. Thats how a lot of this spreads.</p> <p>I have not met one person in real life that knows more about the 2012 phenomenon than me, and whenever it comes up in real life there is always someone that says something along the lines of "yeah nostrodamus predicted the end of the world" or "yeah the Maya predicted the end of the world" or "yeah the aztec/hindu/maya calendar ends that year and they believe its the end of the world" or "yeah there are 6 different religions that all predict the same date for the end of the world." So its ok to think like that, as long as you don't spread misinformation like everyone seems to love doing now-a-days.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2011 16:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <blockquote> <p>If it comes it comes. But at least I had a happy life.</p> </blockquote> <p>"If it comes it comes" is not the best thinking, because a made up story is not reliable at all, because they are playing with an old calendar that is still being used by the mayans today that are completely against this popular hype, but if you are comfortable with this idea that "if it comes it comes", ok.</p> 
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						 <p>I don't really believe in 2012 myth that the world is going to fall apart and blablabla.<br /> I would rather stay happy and without knowing that the end is near. If it comes it comes. But at least I had a happy life.<br /> Am I right guys?</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2011 17:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>I think the point being made about these locations is that you have to be in the arctic circle to experience the winter 24 hour night or the summer 24 hour day. So the effect, if true, is most apparent there.</p> <p>A bit of preliminary checking got this article on several sources:</p> <p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20110118/sc_livescience/strangeclaimthesunrose2daysearlyingreenland">http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20110118/sc_livescience/strangeclaimthesunrose2daysearlyingreenland</a></p> <p>Preliminary conclusion: It was only apparent from one place, so it is likely observer error or optical illusion.</p> <p>Still checking for more information.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2011 13:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <blockquote> <p>The possible tilting of earth's rotation(the sun coming up days too early in Norway, Greenland and Alaska…)</p> </blockquote> <p>If the Earth rotation is tilting, we would feel in all the world. Not just in Norway, Greenland or Alaska).</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2011 13:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <blockquote> <p>The possible tilting of earth's rotation(the sun coming up days too early in Norway, Greenland and Alaska…)</p> </blockquote> <p>How can the Earth's axis be tilted and only visible in Greenland?<br /> If Earth's axis was tilted it should be visible on every place on this earth!</p> <p>If you want to know why the sun comes up a little sooner at these places than you should take a program like Stellarium which is free and see how the Sun moves around these locations at those times. Now imagine that the horizon, which is ice, melted a bit and the horizon is lower with only a tiny amount. There is no mystical thing.</p> <p>Also for the rest, you clearly have not read anything on this site yet since it is already explained again and again and again in science terms.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2011 12:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <blockquote> <blockquote> <p>I don't know what, but something is cooking.</p> </blockquote> </blockquote> <p>Your imagination, perhaps.</p> <blockquote> <blockquote> <p>The possible tilting of earth's rotation(the sun coming up days too early in Norway, Greenland and Alaska…),</p> </blockquote> </blockquote> <p>Wow, and all the world's astronomers, amateur astronomers, meteorologists, comet hunters, et al. have somehow failed to notice this?</p> <blockquote> <blockquote> <p>the reversing of the earth poles</p> </blockquote> </blockquote> <p>There's no evidence that a geomagnetic reversal is in progress. Proponents point to the North Magnetic Pole but ignore the relative stability of the South Magnetic Pole. Regardless, that isn't particularly meaningful, since the magnetic poles move about, and have always moved, sometimes dozens of kilometers per day. Even if a geomagnetic reversal were underway, no one would know for centuries, and there's no evidence that such events are harmful to the planet's biology.</p> <blockquote> <blockquote> <p>the extraordinary activity of the sun</p> </blockquote> </blockquote> <p>Huh? What "extraordinary activity" would that be? Aside from being in a longer-than-expected slumber after the 2008 solar minimum, it's behaving pretty much as it always has.</p> <blockquote> <blockquote> <p>the galactic alignment of 2012</p> </blockquote> </blockquote> <p>Depending on what you mean, there's either no such thing or it's something that happens routinely. In any case, even it were unusual, gravity and electromagnetism are subject to the inverse square law. The forces at those distances are too weak to directly affect us in any noticeable manner.</p> <blockquote> <blockquote> <p>which only happens every 25.800 years and which coincides with the end of the very exact Mayan calendar</p> </blockquote> </blockquote> <p>Wrong, and wrong. Also, the Mayan Long-Count doesn't end. A baktun ends, and all scholarly studies on the matter suggest it would just roll over and keep counting, like our calendar does on December 31 every year.</p> <p>Please refrain from spamming this board. If you have to say, say it, but don't copy-and-paste the same message repeatedly, especially when you're just fishing for e-mail addresses (suspect behavior unto itself).</p> 
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						 <p>I COPIED HIS PDF FILES AND DISTRIBUTE THEM FREELY. NO CHARGE, NO 49 DOLLARS, NOTHING. I will e-mail them to you at request.<br /> there are 3 pdf files; 2012FreeReport.pdf, 2012 Official Guide.pdf AND the equally useless 2012 Survival Guide.pdf HAVE THEM FOR FREE AT viciozoo at the htmail ending with dotcom.</p> 
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						 <p>J. Michael Sayer and his 2012 web IS DEFINITELY A SCAM.</p> <p>I signed up in February 2011, so he is still robbing people. I did get in and downloaded the info.</p> <p>Here you go. The 3 PDF's this con-man is selling. Do me a favour and team up with me. DISTRIBUTE THESE FILES FOR FREE AND PUT A SIMILAR MESSAGE AS MINE IN FORUMS.</p> <p>Official2012countdown is a FRAUD, J Michael Sayer is a THIEF (And so is clickbank, that still take the payments). There is no money back guarantee, as promised, even though I gave very good reasons for it. GET HIS FILES FOR FREE, FROM ME. Yes, I'm a curious idiot that paid the 49 dollars in February 2011, I read it all, he IS FULL OF IT. Even though he has a lot of interesting info, readily available(free) on the internet(copy &amp; paste), his proof and conclusions are very poor to say the very least. I COPIED HIS PDF FILES AND DISTRIBUTE THEM FREELY. NO CHARGE, NO 49 DOLLARS, NOTHING. I will e-mail them to you at request. <span class="wiki-email">moc.liamtoh|oozoiciv#moc.liamtoh|oozoiciv</span><br /> there are 3 pdf files; 2012FreeReport.pdf, 2012 Official Guide.pdf AND the equally useless 2012 Survival Guide.pdf HAVE THEM FOR FREE AT <span class="wiki-email">moc.liamtoh|oozoiciv#moc.liamtoh|oozoiciv</span></p> <p>I don't know what but something is cooking. The possible tilting of earth's rotation(the sun coming up days too early in Norway, Greenland and Alaska…), the reversing of the earth poles, the extraordinary activity of the sun, the galactic alignment of 2012 <a href="http://2012wiki.com/index.php?">http://2012wiki.com/index.php?</a>…, which only happens every 25.800 years and which coincides with the end of the very exact Mayan calendar, the announced fall of the dollar and the chaos that will follow… MANY THINGS WORTH INVESTIGATING… but few answers are to be found on Official2012countdown by J Michael Sayer.</p> <p>Regards,<br /> vicio</p> 
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						 <p>I don't know what, but something is cooking. The possible tilting of earth's rotation(the sun coming up days too early in Norway, Greenland and Alaska…), the reversing of the earth poles, the extraordinary activity of the sun, the galactic alignment of 2012 <a href="http://2012wiki.com/index.php?">http://2012wiki.com/index.php?</a>…, which only happens every 25.800 years and which coincides with the end of the very exact Mayan calendar, the announced fall of the dollar and the chaos that will follow… MANY THINGS WORTH INVESTIGATING…</p> <p>NICE INSULTS ALEX, YOU ARE THE TYPICAL PEOPLE THAT GET CAUGHT OFF GUARD WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS. I'D RATHER SPEND MY TIME RESEARCHING THIS THEN WATCH TV.</p> <p>I signed up for in February 2011, so he is still robbing people. I downloaded the info.</p> <p>I FREELY DISTRIBUTE the 3 PDF's this con-man is selling on his site. Do all a favour, DISTRIBUTE THESE FILES FOR FREE AND PUT A SIMILAR MESSAGE AS MINE IN FORUMS.</p> <p>Official2012countdown is a FRAUD, J Michael Sayer is a THIEF (And so is clickbank, that still take the payments). There is no money back guarantee, as promised, even though I gave very good reasons for it. GET HIS FILES FOR FREE, FROM ME. Yes, I'm a curious idiot that paid the 49 dollars in February 2011, I read it all, he IS FULL OF IT. Even though he has a lot of interesting info, readily available(free) on the internet(copy &amp; paste), his proof and conclusions are very poor to say the very least. I COPIED HIS PDF FILES AND DISTRIBUTE THEM FREELY. NO CHARGE, NO 49 DOLLARS, NOTHING. I will e-mail them to you at request. <span class="wiki-email">moc.liamtoh|oozoiciv#moc.liamtoh|oozoiciv</span><br /> there are 3 pdf files; 2012FreeReport.pdf, 2012 Official Guide.pdf AND the equally useless 2012 Survival Guide.pdf HAVE THEM FOR FREE AT <span class="wiki-email">moc.liamtoh|oozoiciv#moc.liamtoh|oozoiciv</span></p> <p>Regards,<br /> vicio</p> 
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				<title>Re: exact same quotes in both sites (astrologysecrets4u.com &amp; 2012officialcountdown.com)</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 16:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>One site is advertising and quoting the other, so the same passages of text appear in both.<br /> 2012officialcountdown.com is a scam, as you can read <a href="http://www.astroengine.com/?p=6404">here</a>.</p> 
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				<title>exact same quotes in both sites (astrologysecrets4u.com &amp; 2012officialcountdown.com)</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 23:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>“This information is beyond incredible! I was worried that I was going to get another book about 2012 that was hard to understand with the lack of evidence. Instead I received a package that blew my mind away with highly researched material that simply hasn’t been discussed before. James Sayer is the one guy who knows his stuff about the coming events in 2012. Even if you don’t believe in 2012 I still recommend everyone read this… " You think they are founded by the same person because they both talk about james sayer</p> 
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						 <p>his site is very similar to the one your debunking (<a href="http://astrologysecrets4u.com/">http://astrologysecrets4u.com/</a> .) hmmm I wonder………</p> 
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