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				<title>Re: How do you counter this one?</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 21:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>just pointing out the fact that scientific proof is there prophecies are generally guesses,if i personally insulted you i didnt mean to</p> 
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						 <p>Soo&#8230;.what does this have to do with Wormwood?</p> 
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						 <p>Islamic countries are always &quot;preparing for war with the west.&quot; It's the whole Great Satan thing, which has served as a fine propaganda tool for Iranian authorities for decades.</p> <p>WorldNetDaily earned the nickname WingnutDaily for a reason.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 02:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Just read the article with the comment , and you don't want me to get scared, :(</p> <p>www.wnd.com/2012/02/iran-warns-world-of-coming-great-event/</p> 
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				<title>Re: How do you counter this one?</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 22:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>From the scientific standpoint it's enough to point out that it is an unfalsifiable proposition. From the religious standpoint&#8230; meh&#8230; take your pick. The problem, of course, is that the book of Revelation is one of the most hotly argued and contested books in the Bible. I've seen 'Wormwood' interpreted to mean everything from asteroids, comets, nuclear explosions, disease, pollution and the Roman army.</p> 
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				<title>Re: How do you counter this one?</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 22:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>eh&#8230; watch the insults please. <span class="printuser avatarhover"><a href="http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/serendipodous" ><img class="small" src="http://www.wikidot.com/avatar.php?userid=548476&amp;size=small&amp;timestamp=1328306712" alt="Serendipodous" style="background-image:url(http://www.wikidot.com/userkarma.php?u=548476)" /></a><a href="http://www.wikidot.com/user:info/serendipodous" >Serendipodous</a></span> has been a valuable contributor to the site.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 20:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>and which christian authorities are there exactly?no prophecy has a hope in hell of coming out better than the scientific truth i am afraid you must be off your head</p> 
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						 <p>I've been wanting to include this in the Wikipedia article &quot;Nibiru collision&quot; for years, but I haven't been able to locate a source that could argue against it. It's one thing to cite scientific facts against fallacy, but there's really no way you can argue against a prophecy. I'd hoped some Christian authorities might have weighed in by now, but they haven't, as far as I can see.</p> 
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				<title>Re: Facts Regarding Wormwood and Chernobyl</title>
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						 <p>It is also suggested that the BP oil disaster was 'Wormwood'. Some people even claim the oil formed the shape of a white horse on the surface of the water. This idea came about because the BP logo seems to resemble the wormwood herb flower. You can put the rest of this idea together using the passage from the bible.</p> <img src="http://spacegizmo.livingdazed.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/SmallerSlickSM.jpg" alt="SmallerSlickSM.jpg" class="image" /> is the 'pale horse' some people claim. <p>Nonsense I know, but it just goes to show how open to interpretation these things are.</p> 
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						 <p>Wormwood is thought by more modern bible scholars to mean an approaching, massive destructive army of people, Romans or Huns, more probably Romans,. However, Atilla the Hun struck his victims close to rivers (a third of the world's waters turned to wormwood, and many people died from the bitter waters) or whatever it says. The 'wormwood star' meaning that army's head of command, such as ceaser or atilla. Known by that term like we call Lady Gaga a pop STAR today.</p> <p>If this is not it, then it is a very deep metaphor for human anger and bitterness, a simple observation on how bitter people can be (wormwood is a bitter tasting herb, similar to the one used to make absinthe which doesn't taste that great unless you use an absinthe spoon and add sugar lol) how we go to war with each other, how we kill each other, how we do turn waters bitter with polution, even in anceint times how we can harbor SO much hate inside. Humans ARE afterall the most destructive threat to their own kind, and to the planet we live on. We do turn waters bitter, we do destroy.</p> <p>Also, some people think it may have fortold the BP oil disaster, as something to do with the BP logo containing a star and some other symbol relating to 'Wormwood'.</p> <p>This would fit better than the other nonsense, but it is all still nonsense, the bible is just a book, and it's authors are just authors, nobody in it fortold anything, specially nothing directly related to 2012.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>I totally forgot I will apologize if I seemed hostile when I answered you. There is something else I would like to ask about in this thread, I just need to find it. I will be posting it when I have some more time.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 07:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>What you originally said was,</p> <blockquote> <p>I was curious to not see a scientific post stating that possibly wormwood &#8230;..</p> </blockquote> <p>of course now that you mention it, it does seem like a typo, but I took it as you saying you wanted a non-scientific response. That is cool though.</p> 
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						 <p>DieselHorseLAW Oh I sent the terminator packing round trip back to the future. He said he he dont know if to terminate or help me.</p> 
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						 <p>&quot;DieselHorseLAWDieselHorseLAW 8 Jun 2011, 04:12 GMT-05</p> <p>Definition of 'wormwood'<br /> 1. (n.) wormwood<br /> any composite plant of the genus Artemisia, esp. the bitter, aromatic plant, A. absinthium, of Eurasia, used as a vermifuge and a tonic, and as an ingredient in absinthe.<br /> 2. wormwood<br /> something bitter, grievous, or extremely unpleasant.</p> <p>Just figured I would point out that wormwood does not mean &quot;undrinkable&quot;. This site focuses on scientific aspects of claims, trying to be a secular website. It is going to be hard to get non-scientific arguments, but I guess there may be some here willing to delve into that.<br /> Btw, how is Terminator doing?&quot;</p> <p>You were not so paying attention when you typed a response. I certainly asked for a scientific response and I got a few below your post. I was in no way asking for a non-scientific argument, quite the opposite actually.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 19:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <blockquote> <p>And you are assuming that the complete comet would hit earth.</p> </blockquote> <p>Yes, in order to obtain an idea of the maximum quantity of cyanogen which would reach the Earth's surface. It would seem that what little there is would be too widely dispersed to be harmful.</p> 
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						 <p>And you are assuming that the complete comet would hit earth.<br /> Fragments of the tail is basically none-existant.</p> <p>Earth already went through Comet Halley's tail in 1910. We still have 2 meteor showers that hits earth with comet Halley fragments.<br /> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halley%27s_Comet">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halley%27s_Comet</a></p> 
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						 <blockquote> <p>I was curious to not see a scientific post stating that possibly wormwood could be a dirty comet,</p> </blockquote> <blockquote> <p>The main parts of a comet are the tail, the nucleus, and the coma. The nucleus is made up of dust, frozen hydrogen, helium, carbon, nitrogen, oxygen and cyanogen… . Cyanogen [is] a poisonous gas that liquefies at minus 21 degrees centigrade</p> </blockquote> <p>The mass of the Earth's atmosphere is approximately 5 x 10<sup>18</sup> kg.<sup class="footnoteref"><a id="footnoteref-769271-1" href="javascript:;" class="footnoteref" >1</a></sup> and the mass of a large comet such as Halley's is estimated to be 2 x 10<sup>14</sup> kg.<sup class="footnoteref"><a id="footnoteref-769271-2" href="javascript:;" class="footnoteref" >2</a></sup> ie. 1/25,000th the mass of the atmosphere. A molecule such as cyanogen would only exist as a tiny fraction of the comet's mass. The cyanogen would be vaporised by a combination of friction generated by the comet's passage through the atmosphere and the energy of the impact with the Earth's surface. Dispersal of this gas throughout the entire atmosphere would effectively go unnoticed and would probably be barely detectable even with the most sophisticated instrumentation. I can neither see it existing in sufficient quantity nor being concentrated in one place in order that it might contaminate the water supply.</p> <div class="footnotes-footer"> <div class="title">Footnotes</div> <div class="footnote-footer" id="footnote-769271-1"><a href="javascript:;" >1</a>. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Earth#Density_and_mass">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Earth#Density_and_mass</a></div> <div class="footnote-footer" id="footnote-769271-2"><a href="javascript:;" >2</a>. <a href="http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1985MNRAS.213..103H">http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1985MNRAS.213..103H</a></div> </div> 
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				<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 09:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <blockquote> <p>Definition of 'wormwood'<br /> 1. (n.) wormwood<br /> any composite plant of the genus Artemisia, esp. the bitter, aromatic plant, A. absinthium, of Eurasia, used as a vermifuge and a tonic, and as an ingredient in absinthe.<br /> 2. wormwood<br /> something bitter, grievous, or extremely unpleasant.</p> </blockquote> <p>Just figured I would point out that wormwood does not mean &quot;undrinkable&quot;. This site focuses on scientific aspects of claims, trying to be a secular website. It is going to be hard to get non-scientific arguments, but I guess there may be some here willing to delve into that.<br /> Btw, how is Terminator doing?</p> 
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						 <p>I was curious to not see a scientific post stating that possibly wormwood could be a dirty comet, meteor, or small asteroid that severely pollutes the earths water supply for example look here. Quotes &quot;In his book, Tibulation Triad (Bogard Press, 1983, page 67), Tom McElmurry writes about what might happen if a comet hits the earth:</p> <p>The main parts of a comet are the tail, the nucleus, and the coma. The nucleus is made up of dust, frozen hydrogen, helium, carbon, nitrogen, oxygen and cyanogen&#8230; . Cyanogen [is] a poisonous gas that liquefies at minus 21 degrees centigrade.</p> <p>Cyanogen may be thought of as the parent substance of cyanide's of all types&#8230; . Our most recent spectrographical observations of a comet, the comet Kohoutek, at radio wavelengths revealed the presence of methyl cyanide and hydrogen cyanide. “Wormwood” means “undrinkable” - and I believe that the chemical composition of a comet is capable of generating sufficient poison into the earth's water supply to kill the “many men” of Revelation 8:11&quot; end quote. Also check out this site <a href="http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2010/02nov_epoxi2/">http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2010/02nov_epoxi2/</a></p> <p>Wormwood could certainly be a comet, now those comets that were named I do not specifically say it is one of those, I am only noting the possibility of wormwood being a comet.</p> <p>Here is a question can anyone show me something that agrees or disagrees with what I have put up? I am very curious as to everyones answers and approaches to this comet possibility.</p> 
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						 <p>What is your evidence that wormwood exist?</p> 
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