Re: (guest) 07 Feb 2010 20:21
what are hisbooks about and why does he think it will end in 2012
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Re: (guest) 07 Feb 2010 20:21
up top doesnt really explain his perspection..i dont understand his theorie
I haven't read his books, so I don't know where he gets his "theories". He isn't a scientist and "At no point does Flynn tell us what he studied in college, how he conducts his research, or where his research is published (other than his books)." His "theories" have been discredited by scientists, including Phil Plait. Anyone can come up with a half-baked idea and write a book about it, but that doesn't make it true. The fact that he has no scientific background certainly doesn't give him any credibility. You should base your conclusions about scientific matters on the work of people who know something about science instead of any scientifically illiterate screwball who dreams something up and writes a book.
You should read someones work before destroying it. A large part of Flynns work is concrete and undeniable,of course you would actually have to read it to know that. Your hate speech against a very important man makes it clear that you will probally never be half the scientist that Flynn is today.Thank you for wasting my time on your little rant of a site.
So if you've read his book, you should be able to give us examples of his 'important' findings which are both concrete and undeniable. I wait with interest.
I Agree, Very Well said guest. David was not some follow the scientists who won't tell the truth if they know it because it makes theirself look bad. David wrote and researched on his own and for those who have to have a title in front of their name to write or research or know then you are the "stupid" one, Then you should have a title in front of your name to read or even comment. And DAVID left this earth on Jan.22 2012, He died from a tumor.and for those who have been hateful about a person who tries to bring ideals and truth it will all come back to you what we give out will return.
.and for those who have been hateful about a person who tries to bring ideals and truth it will all come back to you what we give out will return.
See, now you're just being a tool. His ideas were not the truth, they were baseless fiction. Call me a hater, whatever, he was wrong and that's it. Rather than post little ranty remarks why don't you try defending his position with an argument for it, just saying "he was right and you all hated him" is completely baseless. So come on, tell us why we should accept his ideas. I'm waiting.
The great thing about science is, it's true whether you believe in it or not.
David Flynn's forum is run by some of the most immature idiotic moderators on the planet.
The 2 childish woman ban anyone who even slightly disagrees with their views.
it should be well noted also that David Flynn predicted the Tribulation and the 2 Witnesses to show up July 19th, 2009 which was a failed prediction.
I have read this book right through once, and am now going through it again with a fine-toothed comb.
It contains some very interesting, verifiable facts, some rather hazy conjecture and some errors. However my advice is,
"Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater."
There is some real evidence of the Creator in this work.
Example 1.
There are 360 degrees in a circle.
Before Noah's flood the Earth took 360 days to circle the Sun. Hence 360 days in a year, and the Earth moved 1 degree round the Sun each day.
There have always been:
7 days in a week - from creation week,
7 colours of the rainbow,
7 notes before a repeat,
Pi is an immutable number relating the length of the circumference of a circle to its diameter.
If you multiply 360 x 7 x Pi, you come up with the diameter of the earth in statute miles.
Example 2.
If you multiply 360 x 6 x Pi you come up with the circumference of the moon in statute miles.
These examples stretch coincidence to the limit.
Incidentally 360 is the smallest number divisible by 1,2,3,4,5,6,8 and 9.
The smallest number divisible by 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 and 9 is 2520, which is the number of days in seven prophetic years - mentoned particularly in the Book of Daniel 9:24-27.
In my humble opinion I believe that the last seven years - 2520 days - of this phase of creation, before the final return of Jesus Christ, will likely start with a seven year peace treaty/ceasefire between Israel and her Islamic neighbours around 2012. This treaty will be signed by Prince Charles, Prince William or both.
David Wheeler.
I'm soo lost!
Hello David;
The examples you cite do not leave me all that impressed.
For example: There are 360 degrees in a circle. This is defined, by us (humans). There is no natural basis for this division. Rather it was invented by the Babylonians because "60" was the basis for their numbering system. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonian_numerals
This is why we have 60 minutes in an hour, and 60 seconds in a minute, and why there are 360 (60*6) degrees in a circle.
Before Noah's flood the Earth took 360 days to circle the Sun.
Before I accept this claim, you will have to provide evidence that "Noah's flood" was a real, global event, and that the solar year was 360 days before this event, and that it changed to a 365.25 day solar year after this event.
7 days in a week - from creation week
No, that is culturally dependent. The ancient Babylonian calendar, for example had 3 7-day weeks followed by a 9- or 10-day week to align with the lunar cycle. As shown on our mayan-calendar page, the Maya used a combination of 13-day and 20-day "weeks" and the Assyrians used a 5-day week.
http://www.webexhibits.org/calendars/calendar-ancient.html#anchor-near-east
7 colours of the rainbow
Actually there are innumerable colors in a rainbow… it is a continuum of color, not seven distinct colors.
7 notes before a repeat
Again, this is culturally dependent. In the western system, there are 7 primary notes, and 5 minor notes, for a total of 12. The seven primary notes are not equidistant in terms of frequency either. The difference between A and B (a whole step) is double that of C and D (a half-step). There are different scales that have been used, and some very odd-sounding ones (to our western ears) in Asia.
Pi is an immutable number relating the length of the circumference of a circle to its diameter.
Yes? Your point is?
If you multiply 360 x 7 x Pi, you come up with the diameter of the earth in statute miles.
No, actually you don't.
Your calculation yields 7916.8068
The diameter of the earth at the equator is 7,926.28 miles at the equator, but through the poles it is diameter is 7,899.80 miles.
If you multiply 360 x 6 x Pi you come up with the circumference of the moon in statute miles.
Close again, but not quite. Your calculation yields 6785.8344 miles, whereas the circumference is 6,790 miles. I'm sure that this would change if you measured it differently as well.
The smallest number divisible by 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 and 9 is 2520, which is the number of days in seven prophetic years - mentoned particularly in the Book of Daniel 9:24-27.
Only if I accept your premise of a 360-day year.
Humans are pattern-seeking animals, and we are good at finding patterns and significance where they don't actually exist.
"Do you ever think about things you do think about?" - Henry Drummond to Matthew Harrison Brady in Inherit the Wind
There are 360 degrees in a circle.
Before Noah's flood the Earth took 360 days to circle the Sun. Hence 360 days in a year, and the Earth moved 1 degree round the Sun each day.
Considering that…
- the earth's orbit is not a circle, nor is there any evidence that it ever was, especially not since humans have existed,
- there is no evidence of any such flood,
- there are ~365.25 days in a year, and this number changes with time,
…well, you get the point.
and the Earth moved 1 degree round the Sun each day.
This would require a circle orbit, which our planet does not have.
7 days in a week - from creation week,
Various cultures have used calendars with widely varying week lengths, some of which are still in use today.
Pi is an immutable number relating the length of the circumference of a circle to its diameter.
If you multiply 360 x 7 x Pi, you come up with the diameter of the earth in statute miles.
The earth is an oblate spheroid. Also, disregarding the incorrectness of 360 and impreciseness of 7, your (or Flynn's) math is 9.5 miles short.
Diameter of earth in miles: 7,926.3352
360 x 7 x 3.14159 = 7,916.8068
If you multiply 360 x 6 x Pi you come up with the circumference of the moon in statute miles.
This figure is within 5 miles but still wrong. Why 6, instead of 7? Why circumference, instead of something else? Why is it significant?
These examples stretch coincidence to the limit.
These examples are utterly stupid if not completely wrong, and even if they weren't, simply citing them doesn't make them significant.
Incidentally 360 is the smallest number divisible by 1,2,3,4,5,6,8 and 9.
So what?
The smallest number divisible by 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 and 9 is 2520, which is the number of days in seven prophetic years - mentoned particularly in the Book of Daniel 9:24-27.
I never fail to be amused by people who play with numbers in search of what they dub "Creator," while the whole time they operate from a presupposition that the Judeo-Christian God is he/she/it. You don't let the evidence lead you to a conclusion. You form a conclusion, then manufacture "evidence" to fit it. This can be done with almost anything. Pardon the cyber-lingo, but numerology is an epic fail.
In my humble opinion I believe that the last seven years - 2520 days - of this phase of creation,
You're off by a month or so.
before the final return of Jesus Christ,
Yawn.
will likely start with a seven year peace treaty/ceasefire between Israel and her Islamic neighbours around 2012.
Kinda like the dozens of ceasefires that have already come and gone. Seems like there's a new one every week.
Crackpottery.
Hence 360 days in a year
360 days? On what planet?
Earth has exactly 365.2425 days for one year.
No believe is required, all you have to do is count the days yourself when the sun is at the exact same position one year later.
360*7*3.141592 = 7916.81
Earth's diameter is 7,926.28 at the equator, 7,899.80 at the poles. I thought that numerology was precise?
Einstein would not be acknowledged or be accepted by the selfsame establishment group think consensus monkey mills…………..What about what David says….Never do the nay Sayers argue facts, only credentials and personalities….i.e. the bought and paid for Condon
And lo the thread did rise from the grave, and it was… rotten, I don't know where I was going with that and in truth, don't know where you're going with your post either jim, though you seem to think all we offer are ad hominem attacks… which happens to be pretty much what you've done yourself.
Is this discussion going to go anywhere, or are you just airing your views?
That's just plain wrong.
Einstein's ideas were accepted because his theories accounted for the 'holes' in Maxwell's theories, and did so much better than Lorentz. His theories made testable predictions which were experimentally confirmed. That is the standard in science… not degrees or credentials, or 'groupthink'. Sure, there are exceptions… some of them based on personality (the rejection of J. Harlan Bretz's ideas by the Geological Society of America under the directorship of then-president Alden) and some political (the state-sponsored acceptance of Lysenko's ideas about biology by the Soviet Union).
Flynn's ideas are rejected because he fails to support them with evidence.
"Do you ever think about things you do think about?" - Henry Drummond to Matthew Harrison Brady in Inherit the Wind
He David Flynn does not say the world will end nor did he imply that, read the book and see for yourself what he was saying and doing in writing this book. He wrote about Newton and what Newton thought and then wrote his theory.
And if you have not heard, David passed away on Jan.22 2012. we have lost a great thinker and researcher and writer even if you do not agree with him. He was a great and professional person who thought on his own which is hard to find today. He gave us a gift to make us want to learn and think and research. David walked a path that Most never will or are to dumb down to or can not even think enough to start to understand. Blessings to what David wrote and to his family. And to those who wirite hateful remarks because they do not like or agree with, you are the ones who do not think and care nothing for the ones who try and bring out knowledge.
And to those who wirite hateful remarks because they do not like or agree with, you are the ones who do not think and care nothing for the ones who try and bring out knowledge.
So if it's pointed out that his ideas are wrong then we don't care about knowledge? No, not really, if we allow ideas that are wrong to be touted as fact then we don't care about knowledge. If the man passed away then of course I'm sorry to hear that and I feel for his friends and family, but please don't attack this site for criticising his ideas, that's what it's all about. If he's wrong he's wrong, whether you like it or not.
The great thing about science is, it's true whether you believe in it or not.
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