A Bubble Full of Magic

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no i dont live in a bubble full of magic like this site does
pryingopenmythirdeye (guest) 19 Oct 2009, 10:38 -0-700

you dare insult my intelligence with this crap. [bleep]. I have HARD FACTS that proove 2012.
1 - Nasa knew about planet x in 1983
2 - The egyptians knew about nibiru (proven documents)
3 - The sun spot cycle happens on a major basis every 11,500 years. You CANNOT stop this.
4 - Due to the earth weakening sun spots on our planet have increased dramatically
5 - Nibiru and the anunaki DO EXIST. Various structures on our planet that are impossible for humanity to build EXIST.
6 - You dare mention NASA. LIES LIES LIES. Its in the interest of any governemt to control the populace and in this theory they would say black is white in order to mantain a status quo. (I bet thats why they didnt mention plans for space warfare to you against so called "terrorists") now thats a joke in itself..
7 - It may come of no circumstance to you that many ancient tribes/people have been on this planet and experienced the events that have passed. HOW THE HELL CAN YOU SIT THERE ANY DENY WHAT OUR PAST IS IF YOU HAVE NEVER WITNESSED IT….[bleep] hypocrits.
8 - You have NO KNOWLEDGE on the egyptian hall of records. NONE. That proves alot about this planet.
9 - You obviously have no knowledge of the recent aurora over chine (oct 10) This PROVES that a pole shift is on the way. DONT YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ASTROLOGY??
10 - You insult my [bleep] intelligence. Your probably government run and your full of shit just like nasa.

Ian Blues #1

First Name: Ian
Last Name: Blues
E-mail: <redacted>
Date: Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 11:56 PM

Your Message: You are absolutely ridiculous with the statements on your site. You should not only be shut down, but made fun of in every sense of the statement "made fun of"! The Mayans calender was the first evidence of people knowing that not only the earth was round and circled the sun, but that the sun and our small solar system circled something bigger. In fact, that's what their calender is based on….. Morons!!!! Wait, I meant retards!!!!! How do you even tie your shoes? Maybe you should find an education. I hear you can pretend you know what you're talking about even more then…. Anything I can do to help douche-bunkers…. How about trying to prove a theory instead of discredit it? Is that maybe too hard for a bunch of douche bags who can't think their way to reality? Much easier to prove anything can't happen. At least for dumb asses like you….

Ian Blues #2

First Name: Ian
Last Name: Blues
E-mail: <redacted>
Date: Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 11:57 PM

Your Message: This is my second communication with your uneducated guesses. How dare you exploit children for website validation. Talking about young people "ending it now" Is absolutely unforgivable. Maybe you could go in the direction of early writings of prophets and how to change prophecies instead of instilling fears in our youth. You are by far the most incredulous website I have ever run across. You have, without a doubt, stumbled on a whole new level of stupidity in the human race.

"Scientiists and Mayan Scholars"

First Name: Educated Community
Last Name: Scientiists and Mayan Scholars
E-mail: <redacted>
Date: Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:48 PM

Your Message: You guys are a bunch of complete moronic, uneducated bunch of idiots and bafoons. No wonder the world is in the state it's in with morons like you disseminating your crap on the net, because it's not regulated enough to keep idiots like you off of it. Go back to Kindergarten and your play toys where you be long. I'll bet Peewee Herman is your heroe and provided the content for this site.

Don't bother me with the real facts, I like my fake ones

This conversation occurred on twitter

RT @OMGFacts: The Ancient Mayans have predicted the world will end on December 21, 2012. They also worshipped a Corn God named Ah Mun. # … 12:24 PM Dec 18th from web

My reply:

<name deleted> They didn't predict that, and they had hundreds of gods. 12:33 PM Dec 18th from Seesmic in reply to <name deleted>

The response:

@2012hoax Dude. I obviously did not write the tweet. I RETWEETED it. Ok we know now. We're finished. G'bye.

A "Free Thinker"

First email

This was received via our contact form. Obviously the person who submitted this did not actually read the contact form, because it clearly says that the form is for reporting site problems or asking about becoming a member of the site.

First Name: Free
Last Name: Thinker
E-mail: [redacted]
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 11:42:32

Your Message: Who are you trying to convince, is or yourself?

Statistical probability says that the more samples you have, the more likely you are of finding the true mean. You have show only a tip of the iceberg of people saying the end is near, and most of them you have simply debunked them by saying you heard they were wrong. You fail to see the big picture behind all of the proclaimants.

[website redacted, yeah, like I'm going to give him any traffic]

PS. When do you plan on debunking the Bible?

Buddy, you've obviously never heard of the fallacy of the appeal to the number. Let me fill you in. Just because a lot of people say "x is true" does not mean that "x is true". A lot of people used to think that your skin color determines your intellect. Never mind that pesky evidence, we have the people on our side!

My response

Obviously you did not read the form that you sent this through. It says "NOTE: This form is intended to report problems with the site, or to inquire about becoming a member of the site. The email generated by the form goes to the site administrator's email account. Answering emails sent to this account may take up to 48 hours. Questions or concerns about 2012 in general should be more properly asked in our discussion forums where they will be answered much more quickly."

I don't have time to debate everybody who sends an email to this address. You're only the 6th person today to send me an email through the contact form today.

As far as our motivation, we make that clear on the opening page. If you want a debate, post on our forums. As far as our evidence, we list that in the bibliography at the bottom of each page. If you don't agree with us, fine, move along.

As for the Bible, I don't intend to "debunk" it. I do, however, debunk specific claims made about certain parts of the bible. Refer to the 'Claimed Predictions' page, the 'Wormwood' page.

I personally don't have the time or patience to engage everybody's pet theory, yours included.

Now this person has put a 'debunkers' section on his page, saying that he "sent an email" but I replied with a "nasty note". I was terse, yes, but certainly not "nasty". Guess what, "free thinker", you *still* don't get any traffic from us! Ha!

Here, in all of it's glory, is his rebuttal to this entire site:

Another type of debunker is the shallow deceiver. This type of debunker is very common. My favorite is at www.2012hoax.org. This site seems to be very thorough, but you need to really read what they are saying. Most of their debunking material is not corroborated by anything. They simply say “I asked this unknown scientist if this theory was true, and he said it wasn’t, so it must be a fact.” They also offer no research or evidence. They try and deceive you by using words like maybe, or could be. They make fun of PhD’s like they have some sort of education to back up their skepticism, when they clearly do not. They offer sarcastic quips to try and make them sound cool. Things like “my calendar ends too, but it doesn’t mean the end of the world” Once again….no evidence or proof, just insults and sarcasm. I once emailed the owner of 2012hoax.org and he sent me a nasty note saying he doesn’t have time to debate my pet theories. Ahhh….the response of someone with no ammo to fight back with. You must be very careful reading some of these sites. They sound convincing, but so did the scientists and skeptics screaming that the world was flat. If you read their sites, use the same logic I have asked you to use with my site. Research, ask questions, and think for yourself.

Obviously he has spent a lot of time looking at our pages, especially the extensive bibliographies on each one. Whereas on his site quotes from the bible, and links to various news stories.

Oh well. Enough time wasted.

Dumbest site

First Name: Chris
Last Name: S.
E-mail: [redacted]

Your Message: This is the dumbest site i've ever come across. 2012 is a serious problem for your narcissistic lack of irony pea brain. Science is catching up to what the Egyptian priests were told about. You should wipe that smerk off your face. The zodiac wheel is the key to your ability to even open your fingers to type up such a stupid site. No sense of irony. No clue. Be prepared for 2012+25years.

C

Really? Dumber than this?

I may be narcissistic, but at least I have a good self-image. However, my sense of irony is working just fine, judging by the fact that your message is ironic in its lack of anything resembling evidence or argument. For example, please detail what "the Egyptian priests were told about", who told them, and in what ways "Science is catching up".

I've got smerk on my face? Is that kind of like peanut butter?

I manged to type this without reading my horoscope. I fail to see how the "zodiac wheel is the key" to anything.

What is going to happen in 2037? At first I thought this was a reference to Apophis, but that makes its close approach in April of 2036.

Nice Try

Well, not really. More of a rather pathetic try. We received the following email via our contact form:

First Name: Daniel
Last Name: Morrision
E-mail: vog.asan|noisirromnad#vog.asan|noisirromnad
Your Message:Hello,

First Of All I Have To Say That This Site Is Just Crazy . Please Understand That NASA Never Said That The 2012 Event(s) Will Not Happen. We Just Say That There Is No Concrete Evidence . But As You Know The Sun Is Acting Strange and Showing Signs Of A Very Very Active Period Like Never Before Seen Already.This Could Damage Our Satellites and Our Electricity Grid For The Whole Planet Could Be Shut Down For Many Many Years . Therefore Please Do Not Say That NASA Says That Nothing Will Happen . We Are Warning You Now , That Solar Storms May Occur And The Government Of The United States Will Be Providing Safe Zones For Some Selected Amount Of Population . Please Be Alarmed , And You Should Take Care Of Your Own Self.

Have A Good Day,
NAI Senior Scientist,
Daniel Morrision ,
June 11th 2010.

With all due respect to the author of this message, I feel the need to point out a few mistakes.

1) That should be David Morrison, not Daniel Morrison.
2) Punctuation marks typically do not have a leading space.
3) It is not necessary to capitalize the first letter of each word, only the first letter of a sentence, or proper pronouns, etc.
4) If you are going to impersonate a NASA scientist, you should at least keep your message consistent with published remarks made by that scientist (by the way, David, if you read this, thanks for recommending our site. That means a great deal to us.)

Caught in the Dragnet

This site is just lame as hell.

dragnet53 (guest) 31 Aug 2010, 18:29 GMT

i bet this site also doesn't realize how this world seems to be getting worse as 2012 comes closer to its date. But your right it isn't December 21, 2012 and it is October 28, 2011. Damn they still haven't fixed the american economy and they still haven't fixed that leak in the gulf of mexico. A lot of experts are now stating if things continue this country will be headed towards a depression yet again. By the way tell stereologist I said hi. =)

Oh by the way, Hopi prophecies are 100% correct so far comet holmes was the prediction of the blue star kachina. oh noes the prophecy was discovered by modern man in the early 1900's! You also note that civilizations don't last forever now!

This one actually appeared in the comments to this page and I thought it was funny/stupid enough to post here. Plus I haven't posted a rant in a while.

So, 'dragnet53', TheGreatJuju has asked you some specific questions below. Care to answer? We had some other questions for you over in the other thread you started, and you appear to have missed the opportunity to answer those as well. Also ticktock wonders why you would identify Comet Homes, which was green, with the "Blue star kachina"?