A Bubble Full of Magic

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no i dont live in a bubble full of magic like this site does
pryingopenmythirdeye (guest) 19 Oct 2009, 10:38 -0-700

you dare insult my intelligence with this crap. [bleep]. I have HARD FACTS that proove 2012.
1 - Nasa knew about planet x in 1983
2 - The egyptians knew about nibiru (proven documents)
3 - The sun spot cycle happens on a major basis every 11,500 years. You CANNOT stop this.
4 - Due to the earth weakening sun spots on our planet have increased dramatically
5 - Nibiru and the anunaki DO EXIST. Various structures on our planet that are impossible for humanity to build EXIST.
6 - You dare mention NASA. LIES LIES LIES. Its in the interest of any governemt to control the populace and in this theory they would say black is white in order to mantain a status quo. (I bet thats why they didnt mention plans for space warfare to you against so called "terrorists") now thats a joke in itself..
7 - It may come of no circumstance to you that many ancient tribes/people have been on this planet and experienced the events that have passed. HOW THE HELL CAN YOU SIT THERE ANY DENY WHAT OUR PAST IS IF YOU HAVE NEVER WITNESSED IT….[bleep] hypocrits.
8 - You have NO KNOWLEDGE on the egyptian hall of records. NONE. That proves alot about this planet.
9 - You obviously have no knowledge of the recent aurora over chine (oct 10) This PROVES that a pole shift is on the way. DONT YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ASTROLOGY??
10 - You insult my [bleep] intelligence. Your probably government run and your full of shit just like nasa.

Ian Blues #1

First Name: Ian
Last Name: Blues
E-mail: <redacted>
Date: Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 11:56 PM

Your Message: You are absolutely ridiculous with the statements on your site. You should not only be shut down, but made fun of in every sense of the statement "made fun of"! The Mayans calender was the first evidence of people knowing that not only the earth was round and circled the sun, but that the sun and our small solar system circled something bigger. In fact, that's what their calender is based on….. Morons!!!! Wait, I meant retards!!!!! How do you even tie your shoes? Maybe you should find an education. I hear you can pretend you know what you're talking about even more then…. Anything I can do to help douche-bunkers…. How about trying to prove a theory instead of discredit it? Is that maybe too hard for a bunch of douche bags who can't think their way to reality? Much easier to prove anything can't happen. At least for dumb asses like you….

Ian Blues #2

First Name: Ian
Last Name: Blues
E-mail: <redacted>
Date: Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 11:57 PM

Your Message: This is my second communication with your uneducated guesses. How dare you exploit children for website validation. Talking about young people "ending it now" Is absolutely unforgivable. Maybe you could go in the direction of early writings of prophets and how to change prophecies instead of instilling fears in our youth. You are by far the most incredulous website I have ever run across. You have, without a doubt, stumbled on a whole new level of stupidity in the human race.

"Scientiists and Mayan Scholars"

First Name: Educated Community
Last Name: Scientiists and Mayan Scholars
E-mail: <redacted>
Date: Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:48 PM

Your Message: You guys are a bunch of complete moronic, uneducated bunch of idiots and bafoons. No wonder the world is in the state it's in with morons like you disseminating your crap on the net, because it's not regulated enough to keep idiots like you off of it. Go back to Kindergarten and your play toys where you be long. I'll bet Peewee Herman is your heroe and provided the content for this site.

Don't bother me with the real facts, I like my fake ones

This conversation occurred on twitter

RT @OMGFacts: The Ancient Mayans have predicted the world will end on December 21, 2012. They also worshipped a Corn God named Ah Mun. # … 12:24 PM Dec 18th from web

My reply:

<name deleted> They didn't predict that, and they had hundreds of gods. 12:33 PM Dec 18th from Seesmic in reply to <name deleted>

The response:

@2012hoax Dude. I obviously did not write the tweet. I RETWEETED it. Ok we know now. We're finished. G'bye.

A "Free Thinker"

First email

This was received via our contact form. Obviously the person who submitted this did not actually read the contact form, because it clearly says that the form is for reporting site problems or asking about becoming a member of the site.

First Name: Free
Last Name: Thinker
E-mail: [redacted]
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 11:42:32

Your Message: Who are you trying to convince, is or yourself?

Statistical probability says that the more samples you have, the more likely you are of finding the true mean. You have show only a tip of the iceberg of people saying the end is near, and most of them you have simply debunked them by saying you heard they were wrong. You fail to see the big picture behind all of the proclaimants.

[website redacted, yeah, like I'm going to give him any traffic]

PS. When do you plan on debunking the Bible?

Buddy, you've obviously never heard of the fallacy of the appeal to the number. Let me fill you in. Just because a lot of people say "x is true" does not mean that "x is true". A lot of people used to think that your skin color determines your intellect. Never mind that pesky evidence, we have the people on our side!

My response

Obviously you did not read the form that you sent this through. It says "NOTE: This form is intended to report problems with the site, or to inquire about becoming a member of the site. The email generated by the form goes to the site administrator's email account. Answering emails sent to this account may take up to 48 hours. Questions or concerns about 2012 in general should be more properly asked in our discussion forums where they will be answered much more quickly."

I don't have time to debate everybody who sends an email to this address. You're only the 6th person today to send me an email through the contact form today.

As far as our motivation, we make that clear on the opening page. If you want a debate, post on our forums. As far as our evidence, we list that in the bibliography at the bottom of each page. If you don't agree with us, fine, move along.

As for the Bible, I don't intend to "debunk" it. I do, however, debunk specific claims made about certain parts of the bible. Refer to the 'Claimed Predictions' page, the 'Wormwood' page.

I personally don't have the time or patience to engage everybody's pet theory, yours included.

Now this person has put a 'debunkers' section on his page, saying that he "sent an email" but I replied with a "nasty note". I was terse, yes, but certainly not "nasty". Guess what, "free thinker", you *still* don't get any traffic from us! Ha!

Here, in all of it's glory, is his rebuttal to this entire site:

Another type of debunker is the shallow deceiver. This type of debunker is very common. My favorite is at www.2012hoax.org. This site seems to be very thorough, but you need to really read what they are saying. Most of their debunking material is not corroborated by anything. They simply say “I asked this unknown scientist if this theory was true, and he said it wasn’t, so it must be a fact.” They also offer no research or evidence. They try and deceive you by using words like maybe, or could be. They make fun of PhD’s like they have some sort of education to back up their skepticism, when they clearly do not. They offer sarcastic quips to try and make them sound cool. Things like “my calendar ends too, but it doesn’t mean the end of the world” Once again….no evidence or proof, just insults and sarcasm. I once emailed the owner of 2012hoax.org and he sent me a nasty note saying he doesn’t have time to debate my pet theories. Ahhh….the response of someone with no ammo to fight back with. You must be very careful reading some of these sites. They sound convincing, but so did the scientists and skeptics screaming that the world was flat. If you read their sites, use the same logic I have asked you to use with my site. Research, ask questions, and think for yourself.

Obviously he has spent a lot of time looking at our pages, especially the extensive bibliographies on each one. Whereas on his site quotes from the bible, and links to various news stories.

Oh well. Enough time wasted.